rnl Posted January 21, 2018 Share #21 Posted January 21, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica was built to fight fascism. Ernst Leitz II would approve of taking photos at anti Trump marches. http://joedaly.net/?p=1605 from this website: "When Hitler came to power in 1933, Leitz quickly realized that Germany had allowed a complete psychopath into its highest echelon and long before most of his fellow Deutschlanders, he saw the writing on the wall. As the Nazis took over and the wave of anti-Semitism gathered force across Germany, Leitz understood the deadly stakes now in play for his many Jewish employees and he quietly began smuggling them out of the country, sending them off to satellite offices in the UK, the US, Hong Kong and France. He also took a string of young Jewish boys under his wing as apprentices and personally trained them in order to get them qualified for transfer to Leica showrooms in New York and other locations across the US, where they would be safe from the Nazi party’s grisly plan. It’s said that Ernst saved just under a hundred employees from concentration camps and almost certain death; tack on the families that these employees took with them and the number of lives saved by Leitz moves into the hundreds. Each refugee was given a Leica camera as a symbol of freedom." 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 21, 2018 Posted January 21, 2018 Hi rnl, Take a look here One Year Of Taking My M10 To Trump Protests. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
earleygallery Posted January 21, 2018 Share #22 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) I know we have to steer clear of political discussions but come on Trump supporters, don't be so sensitive. The OP has decided to photo a series of anti Trump events, that's it. If you're easily offended by that go take photos of pro Trump events and post your results. Edited January 21, 2018 by earleygallery 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnl Posted January 21, 2018 Share #23 Posted January 21, 2018 I know we have to steer clear of political discussions but come on Trump supporters, don't be so sensitive. The OP has decided to photo a series of anti Trump events, that's it. If you're easily offended by that go take photos of pro Trump events and post your results. Here's the problem with that suggestion.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/281047-one-year-of-taking-my-m10-to-trump-protests/?do=findComment&comment=3445379'>More sharing options...
4pipes Posted January 21, 2018 Share #24 Posted January 21, 2018 ^ great photo, captures hate. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnl Posted January 22, 2018 Share #25 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) NeoNazis in Charlottesville Virginia earlier this year. Trump referred to these folks as good people. He refused to condemn them. Edited January 22, 2018 by richardlipow 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitford Posted January 22, 2018 Share #26 Posted January 22, 2018 I know we have to steer clear of political discussions but come on Trump supporters, don't be so sensitive. The OP has decided to photo a series of anti Trump events, that's it. If you're easily offended by that go take photos of pro Trump events and post your results. And the liberals are the "snowflakes." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitford Posted January 22, 2018 Share #27 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) he was elected. deal with it " ----- By the way, I saw someone mention Nick Ut earlier - I actually ran into him yesterday at the Women's March in Los Angeles. Edited January 22, 2018 by jaapv political content removed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 22, 2018 Share #28 Posted January 22, 2018 Journalistic reportage has always been part of Leica's heritage. Please refrain from partisan comments or political discussions in this thread, whichever side of the political spectrum you are on; just judge the images on their merit. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragg Posted January 22, 2018 Share #29 Posted January 22, 2018 Journalistic reportage has always been part of Leica's heritage. Please refrain from partisan comments or political discussions in this thread, whichever side of the political spectrum you are on; just judge the images on their merit. The point is however that objections were made to the ORIGINAL post, which included NO political comment. As an aside, let's not forget that protest marches and demonstrations only happen in a democracy and are forbidden or meet with a brutal response in dictatorships, of which - sad to say - many still exist around the world today. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share #30 Posted January 22, 2018 How utterly disappointing, to have started a thread that was fundamentally about using the M10, in a particular setting. Yes, the setting was anti-Trump demonstrations, not mountain sunsets. And some people were offended -- to use the parlance, they were snowflakes, easily melted. And then the thread was moved, I suppose so as not to upset anyone. The thread was about the Leica M10. But because it touched on politics, it became radioactive. In the word of a certain dotard, sad. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 22, 2018 Share #31 Posted January 22, 2018 Image threads are habitually moved into the photo forums from the technical forums . No conspiracy. To be clear, PJ-style photographs, provided they would not be refused on moral or legal grounds, are most welcome. Partisan political discussions are not welcome. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich Posted January 22, 2018 Share #32 Posted January 22, 2018 I'm glad that James Karales hadn't better things to do the day he shot his iconic picture of the Selma to Montgomery March in 1965. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted January 22, 2018 Share #33 Posted January 22, 2018 So much fun to read. Wasn't there a protest the day before this event? Any photos from that -------- demonstrating your M10 and Summilux? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 22, 2018 Share #34 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Me thinks that objections to the images are provoked by the signs, the texts. By any photographic criticism the pictures are entirely unremarkable. They could have been made by a robot or public surveillance device. So, the texts are the post content and entirely subject to moderation, rules. Be more creative. Never mind the M10. A $20 camera could do the same. Edited January 22, 2018 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted January 22, 2018 Share #35 Posted January 22, 2018 It’s interesting - I’ve been a member of the LUF since 2003. Fourteen years. Politics occasionally creeps into the discussion, but not for long. If someone were to have posted pictures of a political event not to my liking, but did it so as to show how our Leica cameras perform, I’d like to think I’d have evaluated what was posted on those terms. I think that, after nearly 15 years, I’m going to continue starting threads and posting images without worrying that my politics might offend someone. In any form of art, there's a huge difference between portraying a subject and advocating for it. The day I pick up my Summilux BC was the day of the Boston Free Speech Rally and protest which was held only a few blocks from Leica Boston. Despite some concerns, I went over and shot the event. As I'm someone who refuses to see issues as simply yes/no, I certainly saw and heard things I agreed and disagreed with on both sides. Regardless, the photographs I made had nothing to do with any of the politics motivating the confrontation, let alone my own personal views. Rather it was about the challenge and opportunity under relatively uncommon circumstances to create some interesting and representative images. The viewer, as always, is free to draw their own conclusion one way or the other regardless. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 23, 2018 Share #36 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) [...] if someone were to have posted pictures of a political event not to my liking, but did it so as to show how our Leica cameras perform, I’d like to think I’d have evaluated what was posted on those terms. [...] So you consider the image itself and the event in terms how how the lens/camera performs. Correct? Edited January 23, 2018 by pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 23, 2018 Share #37 Posted January 23, 2018 [...] the photographs I made had nothing to do with any of the politics motivating the confrontation, let alone my own personal views. Rather it was about the challenge and opportunity under relatively uncommon circumstances to create some interesting and representative images. [...] IOW you were just another spectator, you had a camera, and no clue and abandoned responsibility 'leaving it to the viewer'. Another argument for robotic cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 23, 2018 Share #38 Posted January 23, 2018 It's "street photography" really. Some like, others not. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tragg Posted January 23, 2018 Share #39 Posted January 23, 2018 Me thinks that objections to the images are provoked by the signs, the texts. By any photographic criticism the pictures are entirely unremarkable. They could have been made by a robot or public surveillance device. So, the texts are the post content and entirely subject to moderation, rules. Be more creative. Never mind the M10. A $20 camera could do the same. What text are you referring to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted January 23, 2018 Share #40 Posted January 23, 2018 Partisan political discussions are not welcome. ...said no democratic body ever. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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