vikasmg Posted January 19, 2018 Share #21 Â Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I already ordered it; got it; tried it; and it is not working on CL... So, I returned it!... That small pretty flash is for Panasonic/Leica and not compatible with Leica/Leica, unfortunately! Sorry, Just read your earlier posts. And thanks - I was thinking of buying one! Â - Vikas Edited January 19, 2018 by vikasmg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 Hi vikasmg, Take a look here CL and SF40 Flash - a good pairing. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Louis Posted January 21, 2018 Share #22  Posted January 21, 2018 Sorry, Just read your earlier posts. And thanks - I was thinking of buying one!  - Vikas  So far, it seems only SF40 is compatible with this camera. There is no another version for SF40. It also seems that Leica changes the pins on the hot shoes, so, those with the red dots are different from the maker of the flash!... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 21, 2018 Share #23  Posted January 21, 2018 So far, it seems only SF40 is compatible with this camera. There is no another version for SF40. It also seems that Leica changes the pins on the hot shoes, so, those with the red dots are different from the maker of the flash!... I got out an old SF58. which I haven't used since the M8 or M9 days. It didn't seem to work when directly mounted on my CL, so I put a Nikon off-camera flash cord into the CL and the SF58 on the socket at the end of the cord, and that worked (after some fiddling around). There's proof in the flash thread. I need to spend a little time with the SF58 instructions to see how to set it, and I will know better if it works in the hot shoe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted January 21, 2018 Share #24  Posted January 21, 2018 Anyone made any discovery about a non-leica flash being compatible with CL?  I heard the old Sunpak 383 is working, but I wish I had a confirmation before ordering.  There is no aftermarket TTL hotshoe option for the CL or any other Leica *except* the Panasonic made compacts. Those use the m43 system flashes.If you want TTL on the CL you have the SF26, SF40, SF58 and SF64. The 40 is probably the best option for the CL.  You could of course shoot in manual mode with many more options, if you want to go that way.  Gordon  Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted January 21, 2018 Share #25  Posted January 21, 2018 Anyone made any discovery about a non-leica flash being compatible with CL?  I heard the old Sunpak 383 is working, but I wish I had a confirmation before ordering.  There is no aftermarket TTL hotshoe option for the CL or any other Leica *except* the Panasonic made compacts. Those use the m43 system flashes.If you want TTL on the CL you have the SF26, SF40, SF58 and SF64. The 40 is probably the best option for the CL.  You could of course shoot in manual mode with many more options, if you want to go that way.  Gordon  Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolfy Posted January 22, 2018 Share #26 Â Posted January 22, 2018 I have a SF40 as well as a Yongnuo 560 IV (very good 60 euros). I use all my flashes in manual mode, even the SF40. The setup is takes few hit and misses and manual but the final result is usually way better thab full auto in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 22, 2018 Share #27 Â Posted January 22, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a SF40 as well as a Yongnuo 560 IV (very good 60 euros). I use all my flashes in manual mode, even the SF40. The setup is takes few hit and misses and manual but the final result is usually way better thab full auto in my opinion. Â I have heard about Yongnuo 560 IV; doest it really work on CL?.... Have you tried in automatic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolfy Posted January 23, 2018 Share #28 Â Posted January 23, 2018 Hello Louis. I will check tonight but as I mention I use all my flash in manual mode. The Yongnuo do works very well in M mode. Be careful though...this flash is an SLR flash. What I mean by that is the size of this flash is huge compared to the SF40. But it also feels more solid especially with the flip axis. I can also use this flash with all my accessories since the head size is regular and not tiny like the SF40. Choices... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 23, 2018 Share #29 Â Posted January 23, 2018 I wish I Hello Louis. I will check tonight but as I mention I use all my flash in manual mode. The Yongnuo do works very well in M mode. Be careful though...this flash is an SLR flash. What I mean by that is the size of this flash is huge compared to the SF40. But it also feels more solid especially with the flip axis. I can also use this flash with all my accessories since the head size is regular and not tiny like the SF40. Choices... Thanks very much for your response. If this flash is that big, then I better forget about it; it would be unbalanced and frankly ridiculous on CL. Â I wish there was a kind of converter/adapter that would allow using any flash on CL/Q!... there are many of them in the market for different brands of camera and I wonder if any of them would be compatible with Leica. I wish I was in NY to spend some time in B&H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolfy Posted January 24, 2018 Share #30 Â Posted January 24, 2018 I wish I Thanks very much for your response. If this flash is that big, then I better forget about it; it would be unbalanced and frankly ridiculous on CL. Â I wish there was a kind of converter/adapter that would allow using any flash on CL/Q!... there are many of them in the market for different brands of camera and I wonder if any of them would be compatible with Leica. I wish I was in NY to spend some time in B&H. Â Hello Louis, Â I know you are no more interested but here is a comparison between the Yonguo and the SF40. Â Â 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share #31 Â Posted January 24, 2018 I know some folks are complaining about the build quality of the SF40. I wonder if they improved it, as my very recent one seems well built, with positive head location and tilt click stops. It is far better built than my Metz 36, where the head just flops about. The only part which seems a bit flimsy, is the battery compartment door. Â Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 24, 2018 Share #32 Â Posted January 24, 2018 Hello Louis, Â I know you are no more interested but here is a comparison between the Yonguo and the SF40. Â Â Â Indeed!... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolfy Posted January 24, 2018 Share #33 Â Posted January 24, 2018 Wlaidlaw, The problem for me is that if you try to hold a flashdisc or a sundisc (reflector that holds on the flash head) it seems the flip system really struggle with the weight (even though accessory weight is between 150/200g) to the point it looks like it may broke if the wind suddenly come to the party. That is the main thing that worries me with the SF40. And that is why I may not take it to my travel to Peru in fact... :s Still unsure but you get my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted August 27, 2019 Share #34 Â Posted August 27, 2019 I did not read all , does the CL and SF-40 work perfectly with HSS ? Â Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 27, 2019 Share #35  Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) On 1/6/2018 at 1:49 AM, wlaidlaw said: I have just received my SF40 flash this morning to have a smaller flash than my SF58D and a more controllable one than my elderly SF24D. It seems to be beautifully made, very compact and unlike the more expensive Metz built SF64, I am delighted to see that it has a metal foot. The plastic foot of my SF58 is quite worn where it mounts in the camera shoe. Somewhat to my surprise, the wide angle coverage (with the front mini-diffusor deployed) is excellent with the 11-23 at 11mm, with little to no vignetting. Now this may be in camera correction but if it is - so what. I have not checked its night time distance coverage, as it is day but with a guide number of 40, it has to be better than my SF24, which I have been using on the CL, especially as I have an additional (to the supplied one) diffusor on the 24, to reduce its harshness on faces.  The only downside of the SF40, is that I would have preferred a rechargeable lithium battery or batteries. I know you can use NiMh AA rechargeable batteries but their variable self discharge performance can often leave you with flat batteries (or a single cell), just when you need the flash. When they first came out, I bought 4 sets of 4 Panasonic Eneloop rechargeable AA cells, which supposedly do not self discharge. 2 years later, they have virtually all died or leaked and disappointingly, Panasonic refused to honour the warranty, saying the charger was at fault and must have over charged the cells. As the quite expensive German smart charger I use, has digital mAH meters on each cell and I always use the lowest charge rate and no other batteries, Energizer, Duracell etc, have had any problems, this was nonsense.  If I personally had been designing this flash, I would have optedto use a pair of RCR123A rechargeable lithium batteries. The advantage of this is that in an emergency, you can use non-rechargeable CR123A batteries, which I normally carry a spare set for my Motor-M.  Wilson I see this thread is from a year and a half ago. Hmm ... I have a set of 16 Sanyo Eneloop AA batteries that I purchased in 2007 to power my Pentax K10D. I've always charged them with a La Crosse Technologies BC-600 charger. They're still working, as new, today. They hold more than 80% charge after sitting for six months in their battery storage boxes. They're the most amazing AA batteries I've ever had... Not a single one of them has ever gone bad! I've used them to power flash units, cameras, and other accessories countless times over the past 12 years. They were expensive when I bought them but have proven to be worth every penny... I also am interested in whether the SF-40 flash + CL body supports the HSS feature, but I suspect that it's going to take a trip up to the SF Leica Store to find out. Edited August 27, 2019 by ramarren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 27, 2019 Share #36  Posted August 27, 2019 I wrote to Leica Store Miami with this question about HSS. The answer: Quote The Leica SF 40 syncs up to 1/250th of a second on the CL, but no faster. Only on the Leica SL can you use high speed sync with the SF 40.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted August 27, 2019 Share #37 Â Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) HSS works with M240 and SF-40 Edited August 27, 2019 by cirke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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