duns Posted January 1, 2018 Share #1 Posted January 1, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is this feature available with the M10 or other M series? I come from Fuji were it is possible to see the changes made real time on the rear LCD when changing shutter speeds, aperture, iso's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted January 1, 2018 Share #2 Posted January 1, 2018 Yes on M10 (mainly in "Manual" mode) viewed with LV or Visoflex 020 (this last is the most obvious). As side note, I don't use it much because I know that in PP later it's more flexible using DNG records to have what I want. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted January 1, 2018 Share #3 Posted January 1, 2018 Not in the viewfinder. Yes on the LCD/Visoflex - but using both of those as a main tool sort of defeats the purpose of the M design. IMO - if LV/WYSIWYG is a main way of shooting, the M really isn't a sensible choice. The one thing it has that no other camera has is rangefinder focusing...which is not LV. If you're gonna buy an M and use liveview all the time I think you'd be better off buying...almost any other mirrorless camera. If you're just wanting it to check on things from time to time though, yea, you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duns Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Not in the viewfinder. Yes on the LCD/Visoflex - but using both of those as a main tool sort of defeats the purpose of the M design. IMO - if LV/WYSIWYG is a main way of shooting, the M really isn't a sensible choice. The one thing it has that no other camera has is rangefinder focusing...which is not LV. If you're gonna buy an M and use liveview all the time I think you'd be better off buying...almost any other mirrorless camera. If you're just wanting it to check on things from time to time though, yea, you can. I realize that. Each lens, camera's read light differently.... So using the LCD as a tool to check exposure, color's before capturing is a plus. F8 @ 250 probably gives different results on a different camera lens setup. Until I get the feel of a camera, its capabilities, to know and see its colors, available light the sensor reads which may take months, I would probably not look at the lcd at all. But on the other hand what is it for?? Menu?? I shoot my way and you shoot your way. I have my style you have yours. I try not to go over 200 iso any way. Its all in the glass.... Your way is different than mine, and thats the beauty of photography.... Edited January 2, 2018 by duns Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnl Posted January 2, 2018 Share #5 Posted January 2, 2018 Coming from a Canon AF system, I am getting use to the rangefinder and find the Visoflex helpful in low light and for long lenses with shall dof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 2, 2018 Share #6 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) I realize that. Each lens, camera's read light differently.... So using the LCD as a tool to check exposure, color's before capturing is a plus. F8 @ 250 probably gives different results on a different camera lens setup. Until I get the feel of a camera, its capabilities, to know and see its colors, available light the sensor reads which may take months, I would probably not look at the lcd at all. But on the other hand what is it for?? Menu?? I shoot my way and you shoot your way. I have my style you have yours. I try not to go over 200 iso any way. Its all in the glass.... Your way is different than mine, and thats the beauty of photography....Oh my god. The small screen is not too usefull for that purpose. I would then rather work with a connected iPad (but only calibrated one). But an M10 you own because of its rangfinder. There is terrific precision linked to that. And if you look for a different technical solution before you ever tried that RF mechanismre then go for Sony when you need FF or Fuji when you need small sensor. And first of all: You will never see the RAW file on the screen. What good is that then? Yes you see the clippings and you can correct before shooting. But again: When your histogram shows clipping then you still can still correct that in LR based on the RAW (around 1-2 LVs). None of this you see on the little screen. Edited January 2, 2018 by Alex U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted January 3, 2018 Share #7 Posted January 3, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Are you shooting finished JPRGs or DNG? That would impact my thinking on this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted January 3, 2018 Share #8 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Is this feature available with the M10 or other M series? I come from Fuji were it is possible to see the changes made real time on the rear LCD when changing shutter speeds, aperture, iso's. Just press the shutter and review what you got, if necessary make some changes and press the shutter again. Experience will often rule out the need for the test exposure. Edited January 3, 2018 by 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted January 3, 2018 Share #9 Posted January 3, 2018 I shoot my way and you shoot your way. I have my style you have yours. I try not to go over 200 iso any way. Its all in the glass.... Your way is different than mine, and thats the beauty of photography.... Sure - it just sounds like your way of shooting might not really call for an M. By all means do whatever you please. Personally I buy based on value, and if I had your way of shooting I would be quite skeptical of the value added by this purchase. But then, I'm a believer that the only value Leica adds over other options these days are in the viewfinder and a little bit the user experience (but Fuji has made a strong argument here). I think that every other reason we choose a camera (from image quality, to speed, to low light capacity, to yes, even lenses) there's a stronger value oriented argument to look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonM Posted January 3, 2018 Share #10 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) If the playback brightness of the LCD can be changed by the user, how can you use it to check exposure accurately? In bright sunlight, can you even really SEE the LCD well enough to check anything in detail? Edited January 3, 2018 by RonM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 3, 2018 Share #11 Posted January 3, 2018 If the playback brightness of the LCD can be changed by the user, how can you use it to check exposure accurately? In bright sunlight, can you even really SEE the LCD well enough to check anything in detail? And most important: The display does NOT show the DNG but something processed by the M10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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