lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #241 Posted December 29, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) How can you manage this? Only in case you use the EVF you might notice it a bit. But even then, getting rid of will be another story. I see two ways: 1. No CSF or 2. no light sources in the background. By the way my experience with EVF: It is helpful but I'm not always able to see in advance the unintended bokeh. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 29, 2017 Posted December 29, 2017 Hi lik, Take a look here Thambar-Crazy. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #242 Posted December 29, 2017 @dkmoore and others - about how the blur changes: The following is done with CSF at 2.3, 4.something and something close to 6. Seriously - it's a nightmare to keep the focusing in its position while turning the aperture ring in order to stay in focus. Tribute to tradition... And thanks to my model who didn't lose patience ... Anyway - therefore I cannot say more exactly which aperture it was in the end. But maybe it gives an idea of the change in blur. That afternoon the sea as a background was best I could find. So my conclusion: In some cases it's really interesting to stop down. In others to shot wide open. For my part I learnt that I should try all option as much as it is possible to do. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3428234'>More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #243 Posted December 29, 2017 Other example - with a crop which shows how tricky highlights can be. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3428240'>More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #244 Posted December 29, 2017 Sorry - forgot to say: without CSF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #245 Posted December 29, 2017 And a last example - bit embarrassing for me - how easily you can fail looking through the RF or even EVF not seeing that a nice highlight on sunglasses can be a horrible flare in the end. I show it just in case someone prefers to learn from others mistakes... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3428244'>More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #246 Posted December 29, 2017 If it was good in 1930...is it still relevant today..? I can tell you: It is exciting! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted December 30, 2017 Share #247 Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) And a last example - bit embarrassing for me - how easily you can fail looking through the RF or even EVF not seeing that a nice highlight on sunglasses can be a horrible flare in the end. I show it just in case someone prefers to learn from others mistakes... Lik, some very interesting results here!As I commented at some point in this thread, the Thambar is THE hardest lens to use on a predictable basis. I won't say master, because I don't think you can master this lens. It is the lens that loves to hate me! I thought Live View on the M10 would be the answer to help get a handle on this lens. No! Live View is too distracting and you really can't see the effect too well. The instant playback does help a lot, not having to wait to develop film. Some great learning going on here. Edited December 30, 2017 by derleicaman 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted December 30, 2017 Share #248 Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Thx for those examples! Really demonstrates some qualities of the lens. I would like to get one for sure..have for years now..but..will have to see... Edited December 30, 2017 by tsleica 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted January 3, 2018 Share #249 Posted January 3, 2018 Still waiting for mine to arrive.. keep posting and researching.. Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Milan_S Posted January 6, 2018 Popular Post Share #250 Posted January 6, 2018 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hollywood Glam Leica MM (CCD) Thambar 90mm f2.2 LTM©Milan Swolfs Photography 25 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hollywood Glam Leica MM (CCD) Thambar 90mm f2.2 LTM ©Milan Swolfs Photography ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3434301'>More sharing options...
M9reno Posted January 6, 2018 Share #251 Posted January 6, 2018 Excellent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 7, 2018 Share #252 Posted January 7, 2018 The choice of resurrecting the Thambar still seems a bit curious to me. The fashion shot above is the perfect setting for this, evoking an era long past but how often will most of us need this effect? If at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 7, 2018 Share #253 Posted January 7, 2018 It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it isn't it? Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 7, 2018 Share #254 Posted January 7, 2018 The choice of resurrecting the Thambar still seems a bit curious to me. The fashion shot above is the perfect setting for this, evoking an era long past but how often will most of us need this effect? If at all? 'Most of us' may never need it. But most of us never need the Noctilux. The only thing that counts is that some will 'need' it (using the Leica version of the word 'need'), and that Leica is helping those people who do. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 7, 2018 Share #255 Posted January 7, 2018 'Most of us' may never need it. But most of us never need the Noctilux. The only thing that counts is that some will 'need' it (using the Leica version of the word 'need'), and that Leica is helping those people who do. My actual point is having a Mandler-type lens with the dual character of glow wide-open and great resolution stopped down, seems more practicable. And a Noctilux makes more sense to me even if I'll never buy one. You may 'want' it but I wonder how many will open their wallets for this one-trick pony, as cool as that singular trick might be, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 7, 2018 Share #256 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) I probably will not open my wallet, though I have considered it*. Same with the Noctilux - just as much a one trick pony, IMO, though that phrase implies a rather narrow view of both of them. * I considered it several years ago, as I do have a need for a forgiving portrait lens for older faces. In the end though, a Hektor 7.3cm was cheaper and satisfies that need for the moment. Edited January 7, 2018 by LocalHero1953 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 7, 2018 Share #257 Posted January 7, 2018 My actual point is having a Mandler-type lens with the dual character of glow wide-open and great resolution stopped down, seems more practicable. And a Noctilux makes more sense to me even if I'll never buy one. You may 'want' it but I wonder how many will open their wallets for this one-trick pony, as cool as that singular trick might be, Perhaps so but 'one-trick pony' fish-eye lenses still sell. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 7, 2018 Share #258 Posted January 7, 2018 Perhaps so but 'one-trick pony' fish-eye lenses still sell. Pete. This is indeed true. But not at 6,000 euro. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted January 7, 2018 Share #259 Posted January 7, 2018 This is indeed true. But not at 6,000 euro. Yes, and it will be interesting to see how many sell. Numerically, this edition may end up rarer than the original. Regards, Ron 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 7, 2018 Share #260 Posted January 7, 2018 Same with the Noctilux - just as much a one trick pony, IMO, though that phrase implies a rather narrow view of both of them. Agreed that the phrase doesn't do it justice, but the Noctilux behaves differently through its apertures range affording a variety of uses. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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