ECohen Posted December 24, 2017 Share #221 Posted December 24, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is where I really find the Leica's world quite ridiculous. Explain please....Do you mean bringing back a sought after collectable? .......that world? There is a lot ridiculous about the world of Leica .....which do you mean? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tsleica Posted December 24, 2017 Share #222 Posted December 24, 2017 If it was good in 1930...is it still relevant today..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share #223 Posted December 24, 2017 ... I am guessing (not having tested this lens) that the circular "donut" bokeh only occurs when the CSF is used. Is this correct? Yes, that’s correct - if there are lights in background. I’m still learning - trying to avoid that. So if there are lights in the background I tend towards use without CSF... Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share #224 Posted December 24, 2017 .... I think the Thambar works best when the important part of the shot is the subject (i.e. it really is the subject) and not the bokeh; this requires a quiet background.... Yes - the more I use it the more I agree.... Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share #225 Posted December 28, 2017 Still crazy - still experimenting... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 15 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3427438'>More sharing options...
lik Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share #226 Posted December 28, 2017 Just my first steps - but I think the sea could become interesting... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3427439'>More sharing options...
lik Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share #227 Posted December 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Portraits - sorry for the background... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3427446'>More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted December 28, 2017 Share #228 Posted December 28, 2017 Very nice, Lik, especially the last three pictures. Can`t wait for my Thambar to arrive .... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share #229 Posted December 28, 2017 Very nice, Lik, especially the last three pictures. Can`t wait for my Thambar to arrive .... I see - you'll be crazy like me... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share #230 Posted December 28, 2017 some detail... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3427455'>More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted December 29, 2017 Share #231 Posted December 29, 2017 Does the filter or lens allow you to adjust the amount of blurriness? I think it could be interesting with a little less blur affect. Curious if it is all or nothing or adjustable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Leica Posted December 29, 2017 Share #232 Posted December 29, 2017 DK Moore's question is a good one. Because while Lik's pictures are beautiful when the glow in them is soft and milky, a few of the images seem to me too mushy. I wonder if the coming Noctilux 75 will achieve that sweet spot of blur and realism and deliver what we hope to get from the Thambar which the Thambar may not be capable of actually delivering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmathias Posted December 29, 2017 Share #233 Posted December 29, 2017 If it was good in 1930...is it still relevant today..? There is currently a HUGE trend in motion picture cinematography to bring back old (soft, poorly-coated and under-corrected) lenses to "offset the excessive sharpness" that is supposed to be present in digital cinema sensors. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted December 29, 2017 Share #234 Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) @Lik Sorry, but what an uggly bokeh. It reminds me to the ‘70 ties, when the mirror telelenses where popular for a while. Edited December 29, 2017 by Gobert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan_S Posted December 29, 2017 Share #235 Posted December 29, 2017 I think the Thambar photos benefit of being stopped down. Lik I advice you to stop down a bit to f4 or f5.6 and the photos will have the perfect combination of a little glow and sharpness. I add an example of the old LTM Thambar on the Monochrom Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279589-thambar-crazy/?do=findComment&comment=3427633'>More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #236 Posted December 29, 2017 @Lik Sorry, but what an uggly bokeh. It reminds me to the ‘70 ties, when the mirror telelenses where popular for a while. It’s fine. As I already wrote - I’m very aware of the challenge managing the bokeh Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #237 Posted December 29, 2017 I think the Thambar photos benefit of being stopped down. Lik I advice you to stop down a bit to f4 or f5.6 and the photos will have the perfect combination of a little glow and sharpness. I add an example of the old LTM Thambar on the Monochrom 25440346_10156208199205827_3680660241327700337_o.jpg Thank you very much! As far as I see at this moment 1. it’s all to weigh the sharpness against the bokeh - even though I don’t manage yet - 2. I always want to avoid these donut rings which I don’t like. I think the only way is to use the CSF only with very neutral homogeneous background. 3. I’m glad at to find out that it’s obviously not a “typical-B&W-only-lens”. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lik Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share #238 Posted December 29, 2017 Does the filter or lens allow you to adjust the amount of blurriness? I think it could be interesting with a little less blur affect. Curious if it is all or nothing or adjustable. I’ll try - it depends on the background I have. This lens is really time consuming ...[emoji849][emoji28] Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted December 29, 2017 Share #239 Posted December 29, 2017 It’s fine. As I already wrote - I’m very aware of the challenge managing the bokeh Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Pro How can you manage this? Only in case you use the EVF you might notice it a bit. But even then, getting rid of will be another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted December 29, 2017 Share #240 Posted December 29, 2017 DK Moore's question is a good one. Because while Lik's pictures are beautiful when the glow in them is soft and milky, a few of the images seem to me too mushy. I wonder if the coming Noctilux 75 will achieve that sweet spot of blur and realism and deliver what we hope to get from the Thambar which the Thambar may not be capable of actually delivering? Well, different lenses, different characters, different hope, and different abilities. The Thambar was/is designed to be a soft focus lens but the 75 Noctilux produces quite similar performance to the 75 Summilux (a month or so ago I mistook unnamed 75 Noctilux pictures to be from the Summilux) but quite different from the Thambar's. The Thambar's 'glowiness', blur, and sharpness can be controlled to an extent through the centre spot filter, aperture, and ambient lighting conditions - as with any other lens - but it always has a 'Thambar signature' (glow and soft focus perhaps?) that the 75 Noctilux can't produce. The Thambar's design is based on a Cook Triplet, which prevents much control because there are few lens elements and and there is little correction and which produces the special look in Thambar pictures. Pete. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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