herbkell Posted June 25, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have an M8 that needs to go back to Solms at some point. It's one of those that requires a shutter press to turn it on. It's getting worse and now takes a couple of fairly hard presses on the shutter to turn it on. Also the detent between S and C is getting "sloppier" and it's nearly impossible to get it to stop at S. I also have a 21 Cron that needs coding and a 90 Cron that backfocuses by about 3 inches. Tony at Popflash has recommended I send the whole lot direct to Solms and says it will be a minimum of 6 weeks and even 8 might be optimistic. I have also heard that there is vacation period at Solms in August. Anyone have any updates on Solms waiting times or other advice? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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msadat Posted June 25, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 25, 2007 how else are you supposed to wake the camera up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted June 25, 2007 Share #3 Posted June 25, 2007 how else are you supposed to wake the camera up? It's not to wake the camera up. Some other users have reported that they need to press the shutter release after turning the switch to S or C to get the camera to actually turn on. It is a fault in the switch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted June 25, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 25, 2007 how else are you supposed to wake the camera up? My chrome M8 has this same problem, and I am debating sending it now. The Black one works fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heninden Posted June 25, 2007 Share #5 Posted June 25, 2007 My pre-fix M8 (early model) has yet to return to Solms for the hardware upgrade. The word from the local Leica rep (I'm in Colorado) is the current backlog is 10 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobe Posted June 25, 2007 Share #6 Posted June 25, 2007 My November M8 has not gone home for its fix yet either. There hasn't been a good window of opportunity. It performs admirably except for the odd green blob and the high iso fringe light problem. Every time I'm ready to pull the trigger and send it off, I pick up the D2X and then think "Nah, I'll wait a bit longer"...I don't want to let it go! It's really silly insn't it... Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted June 26, 2007 Share #7 Posted June 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) My November M8 has not gone home for its fix yet either. There hasn't been a good window of opportunity. It performs admirably except for the odd green blob and the high iso fringe light problem. Every time I'm ready to pull the trigger and send it off, I pick up the D2X and then think "Nah, I'll wait a bit longer"...I don't want to let it go! It's really silly insn't it...Joe No, it is not silly at all. My first release chrome M8 works just fine. Why fix what ain't broke, eh . . ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchoIankov Posted June 26, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 26, 2007 Two weeks ago I was told 5 to 9 weeks (I am in UK). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 26, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 26, 2007 ITony at Popflash has recommended I send the whole lot direct to Solms and says it will be a minimum of 6 weeks and even 8 might be optimistic. I have also heard that there is vacation period at Solms in August.In Germany, workers get 6 weeks of vacation (no this is not a typo it is six weeks) and kids summer break is in July and August. Anyone have any updates on Solms waiting times or other advice? Thanks In Germany, workers get 6 weeks of vacation (no this is not a typo it is six weeks) and kids summer break is in July and August. This is why I would not send anything which is not broken to Solms before you enjoyed your vacation with your Leica gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 26, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 26, 2007 5 weeks vacation per year is pretty standard in the UK too. It's still not enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seekwul Posted June 26, 2007 Share #11 Posted June 26, 2007 Hmm. I didn't know that the 'press power to wake camera up after switching to C or S' was a fault - I assumed that it was just like that (mine did that before its trip to Solms, and it still does that). Well... that's a drag. So now I guess I need to wait until September to send it back ? Regarding the shutter switch fault - anyone have any idea if that can/will degenerate into something more damaging ? Like a failure to power on at all ? Brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted June 26, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 26, 2007 Even if 5-6 weeks of vacation is standard in Europe (so US has something to work on :-)) there is normally not a whole company closed down. So I would assume that CS will be working, also if a bit slower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted June 26, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 26, 2007 It's not to wake the camera up. Some other users have reported that they need to press the shutter release after turning the switch to S or C to get the camera to actually turn on. It is a fault in the switch. This is a problem with my M8, also. My M8 never powers-up until I slightly press the shutter button. (No, no other button will wake it.) SInce it's consistent I've just learned to live with it as a "feature", rather like the cyan edge on my wide-angle shots and adventurous auto white balance (which I no longer attempt). Regarding vacation allocations and actual work weeks much of Europe seems to be on a perpetual holiday, certainly compared with the U.S.. The Germans, however, tend to have a strong social work ethic and do actually work hard when they're working. Still, I don't welcome the thought of sending my camera back to the elves. Six to nine weeks?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 26, 2007 Share #14 Posted June 26, 2007 Don't forget, that'll be 6 weeks holiday per year, not all at once in the Summer. It's all "Lies, damned lies and statistics" For the U.S. On the decline in average weekly hours worked(EXCERPT), Monthly Labor Review Online, June 2000 And for the EU (except Germany, for which no data was available - on holiday, I expect ) Untangling the myths of working time: How long is the European working week? But the most telling... http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922052.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4X5B&W Posted June 26, 2007 Share #15 Posted June 26, 2007 For all those people who recently placed an order for a M8 before the price increase (myself included), does anyone know how the holidays at Solms will effect delivery. Are we looking at a 6+ week wait ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 26, 2007 Share #16 Posted June 26, 2007 Phones not answered on Friday afternoons + long holidays? Does not just apply to Leica. In 30+ years of doing business with German companies it seems to apply to most. On the plus side, Leica recognised they had let me down on the dreadful job they had done on my Noctilux and have turned it round on its second visit in just over three weeks. This assumes that they really will send it out completed, as they have promised, at the end of this week or beginning of next. I think Steven Lee is having an effect. Things have improved since February. Then I sent in my Elmarit 90 for coding. They said it would take two weeks. After two weeks they had only just entered it in their system and amended their estimate to a further 6 weeks i.e. 8 weeks in all. When I asked for the lens to be returned uncoded, it got "lost" for a further two weeks. Things have certainly improved from that wholly headless state. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted June 27, 2007 Share #17 Posted June 27, 2007 One more M8 that will not power up until the shutter release is depressed slightly--to the first detent. It has been doing that since it went back to Solms in January for the "refit," it being one of the early November deliveries. Otherwise, it has been working well, and I, too, have a problem with anticipating being without it. I'd note that there has been no change in it's performance, nor any change in the amount of pressure it takes, or presses it takes, to get he camera to turn on. Finally, no difference since updating the software to 1.10. Hope it keeps working just like it has been--being without it for two months [or so] is not acceptable to me, although I suppose I could always shoot film.... N. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted June 27, 2007 Share #18 Posted June 27, 2007 Don't forget, that'll be 6 weeks holiday per year, not all at once in the Summer. It's all "Lies, damned lies and statistics" For the U.S. On the decline in average weekly hours worked(EXCERPT), Monthly Labor Review Online, June 2000 And for the EU (except Germany, for which no data was available - on holiday, I expect ) Untangling the myths of working time: How long is the European working week? But the most telling... http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922052.html As they say, "Life's A Beach." Something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted June 28, 2007 Share #19 Posted June 28, 2007 ........But the most telling... http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922052.html I think 13 days is a bit optimistic. I don’t know anyone who takes that much time. What are the retirement age averages in various countries? Is the repair time at Leica indicative of the quality of repairs they are facing, or a lack of people with the requisite skills to make the repairs? Judging from the complaints we see about returned items with faults, the latter must at least be a factor. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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