mikemgb Posted June 5, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 5, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just shot and processed my last roll of Kodak BW400CN. It's been in the freezer for 6 years. I like the look this film gave, I'll miss it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Archiver Posted June 6, 2017 Share #2 Posted June 6, 2017 That's a shame. With the number of emulsions being dropped over the past few years, it makes sense to stock up on your favourites if you are able. I've got a bunch of almost expired Provia in the freezer, along with bits and bobs of numerous films. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted June 6, 2017 Share #3 Posted June 6, 2017 Not having used BW400CN, is Ilford XP2 Super noticeably different? J Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 6, 2017 Share #4 Posted June 6, 2017 I just shot and processed my last roll of Kodak BW400CN. It's been in the freezer for 6 years. I like the look this film gave, I'll miss it. How sad. My favourite B&W film However, I've still got 30 or so rolls on ice...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted June 6, 2017 Share #5 Posted June 6, 2017 How sad. My favourite B&W film However, I've still got 30 or so rolls on ice...... I, too, have quite a few rolls in my fridge. I have access to some more - Perhaps I'd better stock up - It is nice film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted June 6, 2017 Not having used BW400CN, is Ilford XP2 Super noticeably different? J Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I haven't shot XP2 in 20 years so I don't know how it compares. I'm going to buy a couple of rolls to try out though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted June 6, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I, too, have quite a few rolls in my fridge. I have access to some more - Perhaps I'd better stock up - It is nice film. Definitely stock up, or put me in touch with your source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted June 6, 2017 Share #8 Posted June 6, 2017 I haven't shot XP2 in 20 years so I don't know how it compares. I'm going to buy a couple of rolls to try out though. Highly recommend you going back to XP2. But sad to see the passing of BW400CN; I too was a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted June 6, 2017 Share #9 Posted June 6, 2017 Not having used BW400CN, is Ilford XP2 Super noticeably different? J Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Properties are similar -long and smooth tone scale, sharp, good accutance, very fine grain. Both are really excellent films. A big difference is that BW400CN has an orange mask like colour negative film, while XP2 looks like a conventional B&W film. The mask was intended to make printing easy on colour paper by 1-hr processing shops. The orange mask makes BW400CN much tougher to print on normal B&W paper, while XP2 prints easily and beautifully. XP2 is a wonderful alternative. Expose for 200ASA for optimum negatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted June 6, 2017 Properties are similar -long and smooth tone scale, sharp, good accutance, very fine grain. Both are really excellent films. A big difference is that BW400CN has an orange mask like colour negative film, while XP2 looks like a conventional B&W film. The mask was intended to make printing easy on colour paper by 1-hr processing shops. The orange mask makes BW400CN much tougher to print on normal B&W paper, while XP2 prints easily and beautifully. XP2 is a wonderful alternative. Expose for 200ASA for optimum negatives. Thank you, I just ordered some in 35mm and 120 to try it. I also ordered a new C41 kit, mine has been mixed for 5 months, I think it has processed 11 films and it's getting long in the tooth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 6, 2017 Share #11 Posted June 6, 2017 I feel your sadness. The other day I was clearing out a cupboard and found an empty Kodachrome box... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share #12 Posted June 6, 2017 I feel your sadness. The other day I was clearing out a cupboard and found an empty Kodachrome box... At least BW400CN can still be processed, unlike those poor people who have freezers full of Kodachrome. And yes, I miss Kodachrome too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted June 6, 2017 Share #13 Posted June 6, 2017 I've loaded a roll of BW400CN in my Canon F1 New in your honour, Mike. I'll see if the tribute results in better photography... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted June 6, 2017 I've loaded a roll of BW400CN in my Canon F1 New in your honour, Mike. I'll see if the tribute results in better photography... What makes me even more sad is that I just received a call to say my M2 that has been out for repair will be back with me tomorrow, I could have run the film through that rather than my III, a much better tribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted June 6, 2017 Share #15 Posted June 6, 2017 I feel your sadness. The other day I was clearing out a cupboard and found an empty Kodachrome box... Supposedly safe in the deep freezer but really, they might as well be as empty as the box you found. I keep them to remind my wife that I really *am* an optimist, s-a Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273182-today-is-a-sad-day/?do=findComment&comment=3290591'>More sharing options...
pico Posted June 6, 2017 Share #16 Posted June 6, 2017 s-a, your photo shows minutes of life not lived. My sympathies. Now that the film is worthless it is time to try developing it for B&W. Shall we look into that? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted June 6, 2017 s-a, your photo shows minutes of life not lived. My sympathies. Now that the film is worthless it is time to try developing it for B&W. Shall we look into that? . You can get that Lomography cross processed look out of Kodachrome for just $25 per roll: https://shootfilmco.com/blogs/shoot-film-co/kodachrome-processed-in-color-seriously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted June 6, 2017 Share #18 Posted June 6, 2017 s-a, your photo shows minutes of life not lived. My sympathies. Now that the film is worthless it is time to try developing it for B&W. Shall we look into that? . Especially the TechPan. I have a few rolls of 120 waiting for me to decide on a suitable subject. The Kodachrome B&W-developed images I've seen don't look great, but probably worth sacrificing a roll for the experience. I have 2 rolls of exposed Kodachrome 64, which I have no idea what they are of (at least 25 years ago), so I figure that's worth making a remjet mess for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted June 6, 2017 Share #19 Posted June 6, 2017 s-a, your photo shows minutes of life not lived. My sympathies. Now that the film is worthless it is time to try developing it for B&W. Shall we look into that? . I think I'll hang on to these. I've never met anyone familiar with Kodachrome (the bad processing period aside) who didn't remark about the images it produced, a quality they couldn't quite put their finger on. These represent a path I chose not to take, a fetish. So it's back into the freezer they go, with the squash and peas. For B&W there's still Tri-X (& Co). You know that has changed too but it's still pretty damn good. What really matters is getting out there regardless the film (or camera). s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted June 6, 2017 Share #20 Posted June 6, 2017 Especially the TechPan. I have a few rolls of 120 waiting for me to decide on a suitable subject. The Kodachrome B&W-developed images I've seen don't look great, but probably worth sacrificing a roll for the experience. I have 2 rolls of exposed Kodachrome 64, which I have no idea what they are of (at least 25 years ago), so I figure that's worth making a remjet mess for. Tech-Pan's extended red sensitivity was a palette I never liked. Can't argue about the grain though. s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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