hofrench Posted June 22, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dante Stella, who is always a good read, has published an essay on the M8, which can be found here: Dante Stella Apologies if it has been cited previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 Hi hofrench, Take a look here Dante Stella on the M8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jonoslack Posted June 22, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 22, 2007 Hi Howard Many thanks for this - I hadn't seen it, and enjoyed it a lot - I even agreed with some of it:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted June 22, 2007 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2007 Interesting ... thanks for the heads up... Now back to work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted June 22, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 22, 2007 Howard, what are the chances of something from you on the M8? I've always enjoyed your recent reports from China, perhaps you could write something about the Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofrench Posted June 22, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted June 22, 2007 I'm very fond of the camera, with all of its quirks, some of which I think are more substantial than Dante Stella (and I am generally a fan) and some of the more frequent commentators here allow for. Perhaps I will try to write something, but it would be along the lines of a user's notebook, rather than a technical appraisal, and it would be illustrated with examples from my forays into the streets of Shanghai. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted June 22, 2007 Share #6 Posted June 22, 2007 I'm very fond of the camera, with all of its quirks, some of which I think are more substantial than Dante Stella (and I am generally a fan) and some of the more frequent commentators here allow for.Perhaps I will try to write something, but it would be along the lines of a user's notebook, rather than a technical appraisal, and it would be illustrated with examples from my forays into the streets of Shanghai. Howard, Did you get my PM? Anyway, congrats on the NY Times piece on your Shanghai series. Best bit in the section. Great work. Charles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofrench Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share #7 Posted June 23, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Charles, I'm afraid I didn't get your PM (what's a PM?). Can you send again? Thanks very much for your kind words on the Times Travel section. I was particularly pleased that they ran a slide show of my Shanghai documentary work. For anyone interested, It's still online, and can be found here: An Outsider’s Camera Provides a Ticket Into a Secret World - New York Times Much more extensive samples of my work, including a great deal many M8 images can be found here: howardwfrench.net/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted June 23, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 23, 2007 I actually spent most of my teen years in Shanghai, Howard ... it's quite interesting as a foreigner you could hang around relaxed and grabbed that many shots, as a Chinese who don't speak their (dialect) language, people could quickly give me an oddly hostile look if I pull out my camera from the bag, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 23, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 23, 2007 Charles, I'm afraid I didn't get your PM (what's a PM?).Can you send again? Take a look at the upper right hand side of the page, visible when you ender the forum or start a thread. There's a line saying that you may have n private messages (PMs) to look at. These are emails just left on the website's server and can be read and responded to without actually generating an email or exposing either party's email ID. I also sent you one of these as a comment several days ago. It's convenient for asides while involved in the more public discussion of a forum, but email works better if you want to actually do some work with another forum participant, such as exchanging material for software development. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 23, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 23, 2007 Or, on any page, such as this one, find the "Quick Links" menu in the top right hand corner, and choose "Private Messages". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofrench Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted June 23, 2007 Sorry guys. Slow on the uptake about PM, etc. I'll have a look. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted June 24, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks for flagging this for us. What polish and insight! I wish I had the skill to write (or photograph) like Dante. Best M8 review I've seen so far. -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted June 24, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 24, 2007 OK, I give up. I can't discover what "Dante Stella's" claim to self-notoriety is or why I should care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofrench Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #14 Posted June 24, 2007 We were not previously aware you were struggling with this issue, Ken. Dante is a photographer who writes - episodically - about cameras. He tends to write well, with a mixture of good prose and a fair grasp of the technical side of things, whether one ends up agreeing with him or not, and he seems to take reasonably good pictures, too. What other qualifications are needed? Not sure, by the way, notoriety, is the word you intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 24, 2007 Share #15 Posted June 24, 2007 Who is Dante Stella? A little Googling tells me that he has been posting on photo.net since 1998 (the end of the last Ice Age), and not everyone there trusts his opinions, although they are regarded as worth hearing out. His website has a certain Lemony Snicket deviousness to it, so maybe he really is the attorney Dante A Stella that also appears on Google's first page. But you will never know for sure. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofrench Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted June 24, 2007 I think if you explore his writings, you'll find a fair amount of things of merit, and often done with real style. I first discovered him when I was thinking of buying a Hexar RF, which I ending up doing. His writing on the camera is a model of clarity, in my view. There's interesting stuff on Canon and Nikon lenses and on various other cameras, too. I'm all for a rich marketplace of ideas, and am very pleased to have people like him, Sean, Mike Johnston and Michael Reichmann, to name a few and to leave out a few, dabbling in online journalism and firing off filing informative material on cameras and photography. It's up to us, as consumers of their output, to hold them as best we can to high standards, which for me is what the recent LL hooha was really about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinflash Posted June 24, 2007 Share #17 Posted June 24, 2007 Howard, Just when I was convinced the old Shanghai that I saw 25 years ago must surely have been irradicated, your photos contradict that assumption; thank you! I'll have to come back, however this time with an M8 and a few small lenses rather than the 35 pounds of Hasselblad I schlepped around then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 24, 2007 Share #18 Posted June 24, 2007 I thought it was a pretty fair and quite incisive article. A country mile ahead of Reichmann's rubbish. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted June 24, 2007 Share #19 Posted June 24, 2007 We were not previously aware you were struggling with this issue, Ken.Dante is a photographer who writes - episodically - about cameras. He tends to write well, with a mixture of good prose and a fair grasp of the technical side of things, whether one ends up agreeing with him or not, and he seems to take reasonably good pictures, too. What other qualifications are needed? Not sure, by the way, notoriety, is the word you intended. Thank you, Howard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted June 25, 2007 Share #20 Posted June 25, 2007 Howard seems to have started a reporting trend: Broadcast this morning on CBS' Sunday Morning: China's Disappearing Ancient Homes, Hutongs Date Back To The 1400s, But Many Are Being Destroyed To Make Way For Modernity - CBS News Broadcast tonight on the NBC Nightly News: Go to MSNBC - NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams: News, video and blog from the No. 1 news broadcast Front Page Click "Second Chance for Bush Immigration Plan." When the page loads, you see other videos from tonight's broadcast. Look for "Infrastructure Change in China." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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