cldp Posted February 15, 2017 Share #41 Posted February 15, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The M240 had a horizon level since inception, the problem was that it was only seen within it's own menu item, in a black field. Not very useful when working handheld or when reframing a shot. The firmware update referred to moved the horizon level into live view where it was much more useful. I'm hoping the rumors of adding it in a firmware update are true. If I remember right, Leica gave us the level on the M240 by a firmware update quite some time after launch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted February 15, 2017 Share #42 Posted February 15, 2017 If they left the connector there, they did so for a reason. I guess the reason is that customer service needs a way to access the electronics without dismantling the camera first – this would be required for re-calibrating the rangefinder, for example. For those needing a USB port and/or video, Leica’s message is clear: Get an M or M-P (Typ 240). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share #43 Posted February 15, 2017 For those needing a USB port and/or video, Leica’s message is clear: Get an M or M-P (Typ 240). This would imply the M Typ xxx models will continue to be developed parallel to the Mx models But based on the interview of Stefan Daniel and Jesko von Oeynhausen it sounded like the Type designation would be discontinued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 15, 2017 Share #44 Posted February 15, 2017 This would imply the M Typ xxx models will continue to be developed parallel to the Mx models But based on the interview of Stefan Daniel and Jesko von Oeynhausen it sounded like the Type designation would be discontinued. This does not have to mean that the camera with that feature set has to be discontinued as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share #45 Posted February 15, 2017 This does not have to mean that the camera with that feature set has to be discontinued as well. Thats not what I meant... If the M (typ 240) product line is to be continued as a variation of the M line but with Video and USB port as Michael suggests what will the next model be called? The M11 or M (typ 250)? Based on the interview I would assume not the later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 15, 2017 Share #46 Posted February 15, 2017 Thats not what I meant... If the M (typ 240) product line is to be continued as a variation of the M line but with Video and USB port as Michael suggests what will the next model be called? The M11 or M (typ 250)? Based on the interview I would assume not the later. The variant M (Typ nnn) is not likely in that case. Going by precedence, it would be M11 (or any other number) or M10 followed by a suffix with or without dash. If they really wanted to surprise us, they'd call it the N1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted February 15, 2017 Share #47 Posted February 15, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) This would imply the M (Typ xxx) models will continue to be developed parallel to the Mx models. No. It just implies the current M and/or M-P (Typ 240) will continue to be produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 15, 2017 Share #48 Posted February 15, 2017 No. It just implies the current M and/or M-P (Typ 240) will continue to be produced. With an obsolete EVF? I would be surprised if there are any plans to produce new batches of M240 bodies at all. As i feel it, Leica's trying to persuade unsatisfied M users to purchase their bulky SL601 instead. Main result will be new Sony sales i suspect but i may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted February 15, 2017 Share #49 Posted February 15, 2017 I guess the reason is that customer service needs a way to access the electronics without dismantling the camera first – this would be required for re-calibrating the rangefinder, for example. For those needing a USB port and/or video, Leica’s message is clear: Get an M or M-P (Typ 240). I thought that too but also given the camera was designed years ago it could have been there for the grip and other accessories, being squashed more recently by a marketing decision. It certainly seems that way if the hardware for the level is still in place. But perhaps the decision is there also to keep options open, that I am hoping for. There has been some talk/wishing/dreaming of there being an optional grip for the M10-P - I really hope so. This is the right thing to do for existing customers and it would not effect anyone who doesn't want the grip. Given the M 240 is the old model with no certain future or upgrade path, I think Leica's decision is more clear that they want us to buy an SL. No thanks, not interested in the SL and I won't be buying an M240 either at this point, just prolonging the inevitable. That is a great shame and IMO, very strange to turn customers away like that over a tiny port. But that's their decision and us stranded and upset customers may well have to like it or lump it. Leica should state intentions either way so we can all get on with things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted February 18, 2017 Share #50 Posted February 18, 2017 This would imply the M Typ xxx models will continue to be developed parallel to the Mx models No, it only implies these models will continue to be available. Whether the next generation, i.e. the M11, will sport a video mode plus a tethering option or whether there will continue to be two different models is anyone’s guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted June 17, 2017 Share #51 Posted June 17, 2017 Is there a definitive answer yet as to whether the level is indeed technically possible and likely to materialise in a FW update? It is an essential feature in my workflow. If it is to be a feature then I'll hang on, if not I'll stick with the M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2017 Share #52 Posted June 17, 2017 You'll have to wait, Keith, as the betatesters are not allowed to comment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2017 Share #53 Posted June 17, 2017 I guess the reason is that customer service needs a way to access the electronics without dismantling the camera first – this would be required for re-calibrating the rangefinder, for example. For those needing a USB port and/or video, Leica’s message is clear: Get an M or M-P (Typ 240). Michael, how would one recalibrate the rangefinder electronially? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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