chris_tribble Posted January 25, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 25, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The only glitch so far - for some reason neither of my Lexar 633 64GB / 95 MB/s cards are recognised. They worked fine on the SL and M-240. I've reformatted using SD Formatter, but the M10 simply doesn't recognise the card and isn't able to format in camera. Anyone else with similar experiences? My Sandisk 32GB 95 MB/s Extreme Pro work fine. I'll log this with Leica... Possible firmware issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ru2far2c Posted January 25, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 25, 2017 Some earlier M's were limited to 32BG SDHC cards and 2GB SD cards. So the new M10 may fall into that category. That might explain why your 64Gb is not working and your 32GB card is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted January 25, 2017 Thanks. It may be that as there's no video from M10 that this has been done as a way of either keeping down cost or circuitry, though it seems a bit odd. I'll be interested to hear if others have the same experience. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
}{B Posted January 25, 2017 Share #4 Posted January 25, 2017 The camera specs say that SDHC cards are limited to 32GB in size while SDXC cards go to 2TB. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted January 25, 2017 Ah - an RTFMS moment! (For those not cursed with English a first language, this translates as Read The F****** Manual Stupid). I wonder why they did that? Something to add to the What Do We Lose discussion... Thanks! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted January 25, 2017 Share #6 Posted January 25, 2017 By definition I thought a 64GB card has to be an SDXC card (since SDHC cards are limited to 32gb). I know the file system on SDXC cards is different - exfat vs fat 32. Any chance you're formatting the card as fat32? It's possible the m10 was designed to not read fat 32 formatted SDXC cards. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 25, 2017 Share #7 Posted January 25, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's not a restriction imposed by the camera. SD cards can have up to 2GB of memory, regardless of the device using the card. SDHC up to 32GB SDXC up to 2TB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 25, 2017 Share #8 Posted January 25, 2017 Pop is correct. If, he were wrong, I guess I'll have to stop using my 64GB cards in my M10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted January 25, 2017 AH - and my non-functioning 64GB cards are SDXC. Had no problems with them on the SL or M-240. I withdraw my self-criticism and remove the dunce's cap. There would seem to be an issue. Hmmmm Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 25, 2017 Share #10 Posted January 25, 2017 Chris - My functioning 64GB cards are SDXC 1; Panasonic90/45 and SanDisk Extreme PRO SDXC 90/45. Formatted one of them the other I just took it out of the M240 and started shooting. Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albireo_double Posted January 25, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) I played with an M10 for about 10 minutes yesterday in one of the Leica Stores in Europe. They had a 16GB card in it, not sure what brand / model (only saw info in the menu). What I noticed was (i) the images took very long to write on the card, and (ii) some images didn't show on the display. Only file name was visible, but no image. It was on and off - not sure if I tried to review the images too early, while the buffer was still clearing, but I didn't take a large number of pictures (maybe 15-20 in a short time). The sales assistant said the card had been in an M240 before. I formatted the card in the camera and then it displayed the next 5 or so images normally, even though it was still quite slow to write them (the bottom green light flashing). I didn't have more time to explore but frankly was a bit surprised at this behaviour...didn't inspire confidence. (Note: I've used the M8/M9/M240/246 extensively, so I know what the "normal" parameters and behaviour in the digital Leica M world are and this didn't feel right to me, especially after all the talk about how "quick" the M10 is supposed to be). [Perhaps off topic and unnecessary provocation here - I've been shooting with the XT-2 and X-Pro2 recently...it makes for a nice change to have no problems with SD cards, buffer size/speed or dirt/gunk on the sensor in a brand new camera]. Edited January 25, 2017 by albireo_double 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 25, 2017 Share #12 Posted January 25, 2017 I played with an M10 for about 10 minutes yesterday in one of the Leica Stores in Europe. They had a 16GB card in it, not sure what brand / model (only saw info in the menu). What I noticed was (i) the images took very long to write on the card, and (ii) some images didn't show on the display. Only file name was visible, but no image. It was on and off - not sure if I tried to review the images too early, while the buffer was still clearing, but I didn't take a large number of pictures (maybe 15-20 in a short time). The sales assistant said the card had been in an M240 before. I formatted the card in the camera and then it displayed the next 5 or so images normally, even though it was still quite slow to write them (the bottom green light flashing). I didn't have more time to explore but frankly was a bit surprised at this behaviour...didn't inspire confidence. (Note: I've used the M8/M9/M240/246 extensively, so I know what the "normal" parameters and behaviour in the digital Leica M world are and this didn't feel right to me, especially after all the talk about how "quick" the M10 is supposed to be). [Perhaps off topic and unnecessary provocation here - I've been shooting with the XT-2 and X-Pro2 recently...it makes for a nice change to have no problems with SD cards, buffer size/speed or dirt/gunk on the sensor in a brand new camera]. This is all normal. The card must have been in another camera at the store? My M10 only displays the file number of the images shot on my M240. I believe the store must have been using the card in other cameras. Write times in my M10 seem fine. The camera will shoot about 5fps for longer than I am interested in. In general the camera review image pops right up. I'm not interested in timing anything, so don't ask. My impression is the camera is way faster and more responsive in all ways than my M240. Rick 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted January 25, 2017 Agree. The general performance is similar to my Canon 5D3. Not aware off the need to wait for wake up. Very fast write. Just this anomaly with the Lexar SDXC disks. I'll see what Leica have to say. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambot-M Posted January 26, 2017 Share #14 Posted January 26, 2017 Adding to the question chris_tribble asked, I have a SanDisk ExtremePRO 64GB UHS-II SDXC Memory Card that has speeds of up to 300MB/s read and up to 260MB/s write. I am not sure if these speeds are supported by M10 or not. Have anyone tried this card or similar class of card? Thanks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 26, 2017 Share #15 Posted January 26, 2017 Lexar 64GB SD XCII 2000X (300MB/s) work just fine. I don't have the 633 card to test. I assume you tried them in another camera to verify the card doesn't have an issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireboy Posted January 26, 2017 Share #16 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) I'm using a new 128gb Lexar SD card in my M10. Working great. edit: adding card details 128gb SDXC II 1000x 150mb/s Lexar Edited January 26, 2017 by Fireboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat Posted January 26, 2017 Share #17 Posted January 26, 2017 Does the frame counter read correctly with 64Gb card? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 26, 2017 Share #18 Posted January 26, 2017 Adding to the question chris_tribble asked, I have a SanDisk ExtremePRO 64GB UHS-II SDXC Memory Card that has speeds of up to 300MB/s read and up to 260MB/s write. I am not sure if these speeds are supported by M10 or not. Have anyone tried this card or similar class of card? Thanks. I ordered one of these and it should be here tomorrow. B&H Photo only had the 32GB version. I'll let you know. Rick 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 26, 2017 Share #19 Posted January 26, 2017 Adding to the question chris_tribble asked, I have a SanDisk ExtremePRO 64GB UHS-II SDXC Memory Card that has speeds of up to 300MB/s read and up to 260MB/s write. I am not sure if these speeds are supported by M10 or not. Have anyone tried this card or similar class of card? Thanks. Im using the Lexar version as posted above. I doubt the M10 utilizes the extra contacts and additional speed, as its much faster than the camera could ever possibly need. But the card works just fine. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambot-M Posted January 26, 2017 Share #20 Posted January 26, 2017 I ordered one of these and it should be here tomorrow. B&H Photo only had the 32GB version. I'll let you know. Rick Thanks! Im using the Lexar version as posted above. I doubt the M10 utilizes the extra contacts and additional speed, as its much faster than the camera could ever possibly need. But the card works just fine. Thanks. I missed the speed of your card in your post. I think these speeds are not needed for M10 but this card would not be a bottleneck for sure when shooting in continuous burst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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