ramarren Posted January 9, 2017 Share #21 Posted January 9, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Would you be so kind to adive me as follows: - If I shoot in DNG+JPG, when I import photos to Ipad Pro, photos that are viewed in the Photo folder in Ipad Pro, are they DNG files or JPG files? JPG What if I shoot in DNG only? Would I be able to view imported photos in Ipad Pro's Photos app? If you import from a card that contains DNG+JPG pairs, Photos will display the JPEGs. If you import from a card that contains just DNGs, Photos will display the JPEG previews in the DNGs ... but the JPEG previews are very low resolution and look crummy.* * The latest version of iOS (v10.x) has now incorporated a raw processor, I believe, so it might process the raw files for you in Photos. I'll have to test that; I haven't been in the field working with the system for a few weeks due to the holidays. My workflow goes like this for DNG only: Import from card into iPad (always KEEP the files on the card) Step through DNG files in Photos and deleted the DNGs that you're not interested in. Open PhotoRAW app (available from the App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photoraw/id413899112?mt=8) Import the DNG files Walk through the DNG files and set basic parameters for JPEG rendering Batch process the DNG files into high resolution JPEGs Close PhotoRAW Open Photos (or other app) and look at pictures, adjust them, etc. I usually delete the DNGs at this point to save storage space on the iPad ... since I have them on the card, I don't need two copies. PhotoRAW on the iPad Pro performs a batch process of about 50 SL DNG files into full resolution JPEGs in about 4 minutes or so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ramarren Posted January 9, 2017 Share #22 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) If you don't create a separate JPG, the only JPG you will see on an iPad will be the embedded low res JPG created for display on the rear screen - effectively a thumbnail. If you want a full JPG on you iPad then you must create it either in camera or from a DNG by a converter on the iPad. But iPads are the work of the devil anyway. Get a real computer like the Surface Pro that will run full versions of LR, PS and C1. Friends don't tell friends to buy Windows. All kidding aside, there are several folks I know who, over the past year, have purchased a Surface Pro hoping they could run their LR, PS, and C1 in the field with it. All of them have returned the Surface Pro and either purchased a MacBook Air or an iPad. The SP was simply not useful enough for them. If it works for you, that's great ... I can't use one. When I've tried, it just gives me a headache because it doesn't work the way I want my machine to at all, and it doesn't integrate with any of my workflows. I'm extremely comfortable with how iOS and its apps work, they work together with my macOS desktop and laptop systems perfectly. If I need more mobile computing power, or access to Lightroom when in the field, I just carry the MacBook Air; it's only marginally larger/heavier than the iPad Pro 12.3 system anyway and fits in my Tenba Cooper 13DSLR bag perfectly. Edited January 9, 2017 by ramarren 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppe Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share #23 Posted January 9, 2017 If you import from a card that contains DNG+JPG pairs, Photos will display the JPEGs. If you import from a card that contains just DNGs, Photos will display the JPEG previews in the DNGs ... but the JPEG previews are very low resolution and look crummy.* * The latest version of iOS (v10.x) has now incorporated a raw processor, I believe, so it might process the raw files for you in Photos. I'll have to test that; I haven't been in the field working with the system for a few weeks due to the holidays. My workflow goes like this for DNG only: Import from card into iPad (always KEEP the files on the card) Step through DNG files in Photos and deleted the DNGs that you're not interested in. Open PhotoRAW app (available from the App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photoraw/id413899112?mt=8) Import the DNG files Walk through the DNG files and set basic parameters for JPEG rendering Batch process the DNG files into high resolution JPEGs Close PhotoRAW Open Photos (or other app) and look at pictures, adjust them, etc. I usually delete the DNGs at this point to save storage space on the iPad ... since I have them on the card, I don't need two copies. PhotoRAW on the iPad Pro performs a batch process of about 50 SL DNG files into full resolution JPEGs in about 4 minutes or so. Thanks so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 9, 2017 Share #24 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) The confusion issue goes both ways. I have always used Windows and I can make it do what I want. My venture into the Mac world first with a Mac Mini and later with an iPad, and with my wife's Macbook Air (she swears by it; I just swore at it) left me baffled about who was intended to be in charge of my photos and music, me or Apple. I agree, though, it comes down to what you're used to and comfortable with. The two things that drove me away from the iPad for travel were the poor connectivity for getting photos off it, and the inability to run the full versions of LR and PS and fast sync them with my desktop when I get home. The Macbook Air doesn't have those problems, but using the Surface Pro with and without keyboard, stylus and touchscreen makes it more versatile for my use. Edited January 9, 2017 by LocalHero1953 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 9, 2017 Share #25 Posted January 9, 2017 I usually delete the DNGs at this point to save storage space on the iPad ... since I have them on the card, I don't need two copies. YMMV... I won't do anything with my files before I have them backed up off the card. Preferably twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 10, 2017 Share #26 Posted January 10, 2017 YMMV... I won't do anything with my files before I have them backed up off the card. Preferably twice. My files are on the card still after uploading what I want to look at to the iPad, so I have no problem deleting them from the iPad to save space ... I can always pull them back from the card if I want to. I don't delete the files on the card until I roll the card's content into my main image processing system at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 10, 2017 Share #27 Posted January 10, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The confusion issue goes both ways. I have always used Windows and I can make it do what I want. My venture into the Mac world first with a Mac Mini and later with an iPad, and with my wife's Macbook Air (she swears by it; I just swore at it) left me baffled about who was intended to be in charge of my photos and music, me or Apple. I agree, though, it comes down to what you're used to and comfortable with. The two things that drove me away from the iPad for travel were the poor connectivity for getting photos off it, and the inability to run the full versions of LR and PS and fast sync them with my desktop when I get home. The Macbook Air doesn't have those problems, but using the Surface Pro with and without keyboard, stylus and touchscreen makes it more versatile for my use. Yes, what works best for a given person definitely has a lot to do with their familiarity and proficiency with the OS and apps on the device. I feel just as lost and out of control whenever I touch a Windows system as you probably do on iOS and macOS. It is what it is ... People switching from one to the other need several weeks using/learning time before the new system 'feels' natural. (bolded) To get files from my iPad to any of my other systems, there are at least three ways to go: Connect the iPad via USB to the Mac and use the Image Capture app. Select all the image files and click the button, they're all downloaded to the location I specify in one step. (You do the same thing with iPad to Windows using a downloader app that is supplied for that purpose.) Connect the iPad via USB to the Mac and use Lightroom. Click Import, select the iPad as source, tell it where to put the files. Done. (Same for Windows.) Move the files from the iPad to a Flickr account, then download from there to the macOS or Windows machine. (clumsy, I agree) This file transport works in either direction. For macOS/iOS only, enable AirDrop, select the files you want to move, click the machine you want to move them to. Moves all the files with one click to the target machine. This file transport works in either direction. Okay, that's four. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregdear007 Posted May 31, 2018 Share #28 Posted May 31, 2018 Precisely,......................and having posted the original question in the SL forum, I assume (always a dangerous corse of action ) that we're talking about an SL, which of course prompts my next question: Why buy a camera of the caliber of the SL and then shoot in the JPEG format. If there are compelling reasons to shoot in JPEG, the at least do as Bill W. suggests and record your images in both formats. JZG I agree. I record both DNG and JPEGs, it's a great option for anything that needs to be printed as well as displayed online such as product catalogs, high end real estate brochures etc. It's also useful for someone who occasionally needs to upload shots online but doesn't want to repeatedly switch their camera settings between DNG and JPEG or convert them to JPEG in post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkinVan Posted May 31, 2018 Share #29 Posted May 31, 2018 I sometimes like to shoot DNG and then the JPG in Monochrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsprow Posted May 31, 2018 Share #30 Posted May 31, 2018 I use Raw (DNG) only. Then do my post processing and when complete convert to TIFFs in case I want to do more PP later. Then I delete the DNGs. I store the TIFFs on each of two large (6TB) external hard drives. Then I convert the TIFFs to JPEG HiRes files for printing and posting. They are stored on the external drives also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted May 31, 2018 Share #31 Posted May 31, 2018 What's a JPG?? DNG only for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Per P. Posted May 31, 2018 Share #32 Posted May 31, 2018 In principle I agree with “only DNG” for personal use. But one of my user profiles generate a lo-res monochrome jpg (with medium-high contrast and sharpness). This way I see b&w in the viewfinder which works well if I either plan for a b&w output or just don’t want to be distracted by the colours. I mainly use this profile for portraits and streetlife and discard the jpgs at import - with regret since I happen to like Leica’s b&w rendering and have spent much time trying to match it. But that is another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhippingPost Posted May 31, 2018 Share #33 Posted May 31, 2018 I record both DNG and JPEG, with the latter set to factory default settings. I then use the JPEG file as the starting point when I post process the DNG files. That's the only reason I keep the JPEG files. Come to think of it, I haven't really changed the JPEG settings on my SL since October 2015! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted June 1, 2018 Share #34 Posted June 1, 2018 The best JPEG setting is DNG. I have yet to encounter a situation where JPEG would be a preferable option. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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