Donzo98 Posted March 20, 2017 Share #281 Posted March 20, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow... that's disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Hi Donzo98, Take a look here Please convince me the SL 50/1.4 is better than summilux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dancook Posted March 20, 2017 Share #282 Posted March 20, 2017 unprocessed, except for exposure tweak - look at that moire on those suits! both at f1.4 Full uncropped https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2939/33167514130_fc90dea4f2_o.jpg Moire by dancook1982, on Flickr Full uncropped https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2902/32707527334_842252f5b2_o.jpg B+G 50mm example by dancook1982, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 23, 2017 Share #283 Posted March 23, 2017 Has anybody tried a close-up lens with the Summilux ? Maybe thighslapper ? After all it is an apo corrected lens, so a good starting point. The SL 50 only focuses up to 0.6 m, but with a Marumi or Canon it should be possible to get closer with decent quality. The Apo 50 is also strong in close-up mode - even without a lens, only with a macro adapter. Too bad that there is no macro adapter for the SL system. All close-up lenses are only 77mm. I wonder is this a problem regarding vignetting - or is it ok, just like the 24.90 ? Or is IQ poor and no substitute for a macro lens ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 23, 2017 Share #284 Posted March 23, 2017 Yes...... Works fine with a +5 dioptre Marumi and takes focus down to about 10cm. I thought I had posted some images ..... Just like the 24-90 and image quality unaffected. You need a 77-82 step down ring. No noticeable vignetting. These are from 5 minutes ago of lilies in the conservatory f1.4 @ 1/2500sec Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! f8 @ 1/60sec Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! f8 @ 1/60sec ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267776-please-convince-me-the-sl-5014-is-better-than-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=3240033'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 23, 2017 Share #285 Posted March 23, 2017 this was one of the previous images ..... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267776-please-convince-me-the-sl-5014-is-better-than-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=3240039'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 23, 2017 Share #286 Posted March 23, 2017 and a couple more from this afternoon ..... the feather is a crop .... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267776-please-convince-me-the-sl-5014-is-better-than-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=3240223'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 23, 2017 Share #287 Posted March 23, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267776-please-convince-me-the-sl-5014-is-better-than-summilux/?do=findComment&comment=3240225'>More sharing options...
kiubabar Posted March 23, 2017 Share #288 Posted March 23, 2017 Summilux-SL 50/1.4 v.s. Vario-Elmarit-SL 24-90 at f4, the Summilux-SL has more detail in the corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiubabar Posted March 23, 2017 Share #289 Posted March 23, 2017 Summilux-SL 50/1.4 v.s. Noctilux-M 0.95 v.s. APO-Summicron-M 50/2 at f8, Summilux-SL 50/1.4 still shows more details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 23, 2017 Share #290 Posted March 23, 2017 Being an enthusiast, pretty marginal, I'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted March 24, 2017 Share #291 Posted March 24, 2017 Being an enthusiast, pretty marginal, I'd say. Agreed... and posting pics at F4 and F8 is pretty useless as well. I have the 50SL coming in to shoot it at 1.4 and a touch faster. If I wanted to shoot at F4 or F8, I would just use the 24-90. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted March 24, 2017 Share #292 Posted March 24, 2017 Agreed... and posting pics at F4 and F8 is pretty useless as well. I have the 50SL coming in to shoot it at 1.4 and a touch faster. If I wanted to shoot at F4 or F8, I would just use the 24-90. * Some people may not want the 24-90. They may go with a 16-35, 50, 90-280 set. * It's generally accepted that *if* you're pushing it then the 90-280 is better at 90mm than the 24-90. So why not the same option for those with the 50mm/24-90. I also, will use the 50 mostly when I need faster apertures. However it's good to know that the 50 is as good as the zoom at mid apertures, which it may not have been. So useful to me. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted March 24, 2017 Share #293 Posted March 24, 2017 That's true.... didnt think of it that way. I would say though....the 50 certainly better be as good the 24-90 at F4. If it's not... there a problem. The 50 is stopped down a fair amount... and the zoom is neatly wide open. Wide open @50 the zoom is F3.6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiubabar Posted March 24, 2017 Share #294 Posted March 24, 2017 Agreed... and posting pics at F4 and F8 is pretty useless as well. I have the 50SL coming in to shoot it at 1.4 and a touch faster. If I wanted to shoot at F4 or F8, I would just use the 24-90. Not everyone need f1.4. Many of my friends keep asking me, the VM24-90 is large and heavy(compare to Nikon, Canon, Sony FE) and how about the image quality and the image resolution ? No one will question the image quality of the prime lens SL-50/1.4. So base on my test, I will tell my friend that for a zoom lens, VM24-90 is good enough, the corner might be a little bit soft but it's convenience. SL + Summilux-SL 50/1.4 wide open Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted March 24, 2017 Share #295 Posted March 24, 2017 Not everyone need f1.4. Many of my friends keep asking me, the VM24-90 is large and heavy(compare to Nikon, Canon, Sony FE) and how about the image quality and the image resolution ? No one will question the image quality of the prime lens SL-50/1.4. So base on my test, I will tell my friend that for a zoom lens, VM24-90 is good enough, the corner might be a little bit soft but it's convenience. SL + Summilux-SL 50/1.4 wide open That looks great!! 1.4 is gorgeous... and no CA at all. The 24-90 is not really that big compared to the Nikon 24-70VR. The Nikon version is longer physically longer, but weighs 70 grams less. I love that the 24-90 goes to 90... that was one of my main issues with the Nikon... wanted a touch more range. I don't like the variable aperture of the Leica though. Leica 88mm x 138mm 1140g Nikon 88mm x 154.5mm 1070g Canon 88mm x 113mm 805g Sony 87.6mm x 136 886g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD_50 Posted March 24, 2017 Share #296 Posted March 24, 2017 Not everyone need f1.4. Many of my friends keep asking me, the VM24-90 is large and heavy(compare to Nikon, Canon, Sony FE) and how about the image quality and the image resolution ? No one will question the image quality of the prime lens SL-50/1.4. So base on my test, I will tell my friend that for a zoom lens, VM24-90 is good enough, the corner might be a little bit soft but it's convenience. SL + Summilux-SL 50/1.4 wide open The 24-90 really is not large when compared to similar FF lenses from Canon and Nikon. It's very similar in size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 24, 2017 Share #297 Posted March 24, 2017 If you need OIS, then the SL 24-90 is perfect. But if not then there are now other possible combinations with the SL 50 and much wider aperture: (that are more attractive/useful to me) 2/24-35, 1.4/50 and 1.4/85. The SL 50 seems to be almost universal - regarding focal length and also regarding quality at all apertures and distances. A good starting point, though 50mm is probably a tad boring. The Art 2/24-35 is actually the more useful lens in a crowded place or for documentation and for many other occasions. And the Art 1.4/85 is new, but much better than anticipated (regarding AF speed and IQ). Maybe a bit too cold (and clinical), but in that regard it is similar to the SL 50. Much earlier than expected I have now a almost complete AF setup. And could get rid of the R lenses .... (But probably won't). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 24, 2017 Share #298 Posted March 24, 2017 If you need OIS, then the SL 24-90 is perfect. But if not then there are now other possible combinations with the SL 50 and much wider aperture: (that are more attractive/useful to me) 2/24-35, 1.4/50 and 1.4/85. The SL 50 seems to be almost universal - regarding focal length and also regarding quality at all apertures and distances. A good starting point, though 50mm is probably a tad boring. The Art 2/24-35 is actually the more useful lens in a crowded place or for documentation and for many other occasions. And the Art 1.4/85 is new, but much better than anticipated (regarding AF speed and IQ). Maybe a bit too cold (and clinical), but in that regard it is similar to the SL 50. My setup covers the bases I find. Leica Q 28mm 1.7 50 1.4 SL 90-280mm SL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted March 24, 2017 Share #299 Posted March 24, 2017 Mine... Leica Q 24-90 SL 50 SL or Noctilux (one will go) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 28, 2017 Share #300 Posted March 28, 2017 If Leica will keep straight to their scheduled path, then we should very soon see the first Summicron SL 75 (offcial release in summer). Soon because they tend to show a few lenses before this date - as they did with the 90-280 and the 50. And soon afterwards the much expected Summicron SL 90 (official release autumn). Here again we have suddenly a "difficult choice" as it turns out we have three (four) options - that are maybe not equivalent, but all very attractive on their own ground. + Summicron SL 90 (or 75) as a lens with a special "thin" DoF (highly praised by Mr. Karbe). (A Summicron like a Summilux.) Quite small compared to the existing SL lenses. + Sigma 1.4/85 Art, with amazing AF speed on the Novoflex Canon AF adapter and excellent optical quality. + Nikon 1.4/105E. As big as the Summilux 50 (or bigger ?), focusing really well with the Novoflex Nikon AF adapter and highly praised for its outstanding IQ. (And currently a record holder). A tough choice. Please convince me ... What about collecting pics for comparison ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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