Peter H Posted December 16, 2016 Share #321 Posted December 16, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) An M10 using the SL and Q parts bin makes a certain amount of sense and could be appealing to many, but would only be a good move if, as speculated, it runs parallel to the next M typ xxx which is a fully new and up-to-the minute product. Otherwise it confirms that Leica is looking after its rangefinder aficionados by keeping a body available for them as it does with film bodies, for which we should be grateful, but concentrating its development efforts elsewhere. We really don't know where Leica is going with the M do we? This latest M10 rumour clarifies nothing. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 Hi Peter H, Take a look here Leica M 10. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
cirke Posted December 16, 2016 Share #322 Posted December 16, 2016 with actual specs on leicarumors I keep my M240 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted December 16, 2016 Share #323 Posted December 16, 2016 No video. I guess I will be buying an SL next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 16, 2016 Share #324 Posted December 16, 2016 No video. I guess I will be buying an SL next year. I guess that is what Leica is trying to do. Gently pushing M users to SL. Whether it makes sense from business perspective is hard to tell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 16, 2016 Share #325 Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Leica is killing the M as they did with the R I don't want a 2 kilos 50 summilux Edited December 16, 2016 by siangue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 16, 2016 Share #326 Posted December 16, 2016 Rather doubtful assertion. The R was hemorrhaging money, the M is earning money. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted December 16, 2016 Share #327 Posted December 16, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica is killing the M as they did with the R I don't want a 2 kilos 50 summilux They will only kill it if they kill it's unique identity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted December 16, 2016 Share #328 Posted December 16, 2016 It won't be killed off, iit's making them a lot of money. It seems it may have been put out to pasture though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted December 16, 2016 Share #329 Posted December 16, 2016 It won't be killed off, iit's making them a lot of money. True! I will help them to pile up money next month! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobers Posted December 16, 2016 Share #330 Posted December 16, 2016 I think there's a logical split taking place in the Leica product line here: - Leica M for "purists" - simple photography, manual dials & settings, small, unobtrusive, no bells or whistles - Leica SL for max functionality, modernity, autofocus, EVF, zooms Seems sensible to me. Especially as you can slot your M lenses onto your SL. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 16, 2016 Share #331 Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) I think there's a logical split taking place in the Leica product line here: - Leica M for "purists" - simple photography, manual dials & settings, small, unobtrusive, no bells or whistles - Leica SL for max functionality, modernity, autofocus, EVF, zooms Seems sensible to me. Especially as you can slot your M lenses onto your SL. Unfortunately a Leica M for purists, sans EVF, is of no interest to me as I already have one in the form of an M9. Unfortunately the Leica SL is of no interest to me. I genuinely hope you're wrong. Edited December 16, 2016 by keithlaban.co.uk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted December 16, 2016 Share #332 Posted December 16, 2016 More from Leica Rumours - http://leicarumors.com/2016/12/16/leica-m10-additional-information.aspx/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 16, 2016 Share #333 Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) That would support Peter's original theory - this M is the digital classic. The digital version of the film MP and M7. Continuing the numbering from the M9 makes sense in this context - it's just the next step on from that camera, a thinner M(262) with WiFi - with a permanent place in the M line-up. That also suggests that there may well be an M(xxx) which will be too adventurous for the "purists". The M(240) apparently sold well; I doubt even Leica would cripple it in the next iteration by offering less. The M10 would enable Leica to kill off some shibboleths holding the camera back. We might even lose the baseplate ... Edited December 16, 2016 by IkarusJohn 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 16, 2016 Share #334 Posted December 16, 2016 More from Leica Rumours - http://leicarumors.com/2016/12/16/leica-m10-additional-information.aspx/ Some additional information on the Leica M10 camera: The camera looks very much like the film Leica MP. It appears to be made of black chrome and it is very slim compared to previous digital M models. There are no openings for a microphone or a speaker. The dial for the ISO on the top plate has the settings A - M and then goes from 100 to 6,400. The camera on switch has only one setting and it’s marked with a dot. No S - C options (for single/continuous shooting). Next to the display on the left are only 3 buttons: LV, Play and Menu as well as 2 LEDs (this is probably done to fit the larger LCD screen). The M10 does not have video recording, but it does have Live View. The flash shoe has the same EVF connector as the TL - previous rumors indicated that the M10 will use the same EVF from the TL: Wow. Out of date sensor. Out of date EVF. Disabled video. Retro film rewind button for ISO? Where is the film advance lever? That could be repurposed for some stupid idea too. Rick 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 16, 2016 Share #335 Posted December 16, 2016 a thinner M(262) with WiFi - with a permanent place in the M line-up. But with LV, unlike the M262, according to Rumors. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted December 16, 2016 Share #336 Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) That would support Peter's original theory - this M is the digital classic. The digital version of the film MP and M7. Continuing the numbering from the M9 makes sense in this context - it's just the next step on from that camera, a thinner M(262) with WiFi - with a permanent place in the M line-up. That also suggests that there may well be an M(xxx) which will be too adventurous for the "purists". The M(240) apparently sold well; I doubt even Leica would cripple it in the next iteration by offering less. The M10 would enable Leica to kill off some shibboleths holding the camera back. We might even lose the baseplate ... Well I hope this to be true. ISO 6400 sounds off to me given the Q and SL are, what, 50 000? Could it really be a CCD? Edited December 16, 2016 by Paul J Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 16, 2016 Share #337 Posted December 16, 2016 ISO 6400 sounds off to me given the Q and SL are, what, 50 000? Could it really be a CCD? Rumors Admin clarifies in the comments section that he thinks it will accommodate ISO 50,000. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 16, 2016 Share #338 Posted December 16, 2016 I think there's a logical split taking place in the Leica product line here: - Leica M for "purists" - simple photography, manual dials & settings, small, unobtrusive, no bells or whistles - Leica SL for max functionality, modernity, autofocus, EVF, zooms Seems sensible to me. Especially as you can slot your M lenses onto your SL. Not really. I have no affinity to the SL. Too big, not my taste on looks, no rangefinder. Still, I like the options that the M240 offers. And I will not spend the money to buy both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted December 16, 2016 Share #339 Posted December 16, 2016 Rumors Admin clarifies in the comments section that he thinks it will accommodate ISO 50,000. Jeff I don't buy that, why would they do that? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 16, 2016 Share #340 Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) [...] That also suggests that there may well be an M(xxx) which will be too adventurous for the "purists". The M(240) apparently sold well; I doubt even Leica would cripple it in the next iteration by offering less. The M10 would enable Leica to kill off some shibboleths holding the camera back. We might even lose the baseplate ... The main question being the presence or absence of optical rangefinder in that modern version... Edited December 16, 2016 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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