Kyros Moutsouris Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1481 Posted January 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) A hybrid viewfinder is very, very unlikely, in my opinion. The rumor site suggests that the camera will use the optional add-on EVF from the Leica T. That makes a lot more sense, and sounds like the Leica way. I don't think that Leica will mess with the optical viewfinder (except to refine it) as it's the essence of the Leica M. If I'm not wrong they released a hybrid rf patent some months ago.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cirke Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1482 Posted January 12, 2017 Hybrid viewer? No thanks. Hybrid viewer or nothing :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1483 Posted January 12, 2017 it is why I called it a regression Isn't that (if it is a regression) good news for M240's resale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1484 Posted January 12, 2017 A hybrid viewfinder is very, very unlikely, in my opinion. The rumor site suggests that the camera will use the optional add-on EVF from the Leica T. That makes a lot more sense, and sounds like the Leica way. I don't think that Leica will mess with the optical viewfinder (except to refine it) as it's the essence of the Leica M. My thinking too. Also Michael Hussmann always insisted it is technically impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1485 Posted January 12, 2017 Will M240 be on sale along with M10? We will have to wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1486 Posted January 12, 2017 Hybrid viewer or nothing :-) Wanna bet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1487 Posted January 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) [...] A digital M can be for life. Four years... Must be guinea pigs lifespan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1488 Posted January 12, 2017 It seems that now a days skipping a generation (M9 to M10) makes more sense if you want a substantial upgrade to the specs. Generation to generation difference are not that compelling to many users. Eagerly waiting for next week... That may often be true but I have found over the last three and a bit years of daily M240 usage that it is superior in every way to the M9. I really don't enjoy using an M9 now. The M240 is so much better (for me) both in use and results. So to my eyes, the M10 looks like the generation to miss because I'm yet to see anything suggesting the scale of improvement that the 240 offered relative to the M9, though I suppose I ought to wait to see what it is first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1489 Posted January 12, 2017 Wanna bet? NO ! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1490 Posted January 12, 2017 Hybrid viewer or nothing :-) Nothing or Fuji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1491 Posted January 12, 2017 My thinking too. Also Michael Hussmann always insisted it is technically impossible. I think that argument was used for full frame digital M a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1492 Posted January 12, 2017 Four years... Must be guinea pigs lifespan I don't get it !? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1493 Posted January 12, 2017 Just kidding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1494 Posted January 12, 2017 That may often be true but I have found over the last three and a bit years of daily M240 usage that it is superior in every way to the M9. I really don't enjoy using an M9 now. The M240 is so much better (for me) both in use and results. So to my eyes, the M10 looks like the generation to miss because I'm yet to see anything suggesting the scale of improvement that the 240 offered relative to the M9, though I suppose I ought to wait to see what it is first! In case of M9 to M240, I agree that difference was significant if you cared for the extras. The high ISO is almost 2 stop better and LV/movie is totally new allowing legacy lens usage. Increase battery life is another bonus. My overlap of M9 and M240 was only a month. edit: With M240, I can say that it may work for me as a camera for life (depending on the robustness, so far so good in last 2.5 years). With M9 I could not say that because I would have to have other cameras to supplement other usage (macro, tele, etc). M240 can be one camera doing it all for ever. Live long M240 ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1495 Posted January 12, 2017 Hybrid viewer or nothing :-) What's wrong with the add-on EVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyros Moutsouris Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1496 Posted January 12, 2017 What's wrong with the add-on EVF?Has GPS too... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rawcs Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1497 Posted January 12, 2017 What's wrong with the add-on EVF? Having to take it off in order to be able to put the camera in your bag (or struggling to get the camera out of your bag if you didn't remove the EVF. I had the EVF on the T camera and it was a pain! In use the EVF was fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1498 Posted January 12, 2017 Having to take it off in order to be able to put the camera in your bag (or struggling to get the camera out of your bag if you didn't remove the EVF. I had the EVF on the T camera and it was a pain! In use the EVF was fine. I don't use camera bags therefore I don't face that issue. I am not a heavy EVF user but once I experimented by carrying the camera on my shoulder with EVF attached for primarily EVF shooting. In fact I used it as I use my Canon DSLR. Let camera sleep when not in use and wake it up by tapping the shutter when I want to use. My experience was very positive. It felt like shooting a DSLR with only two issues which are well known. Wake up time lag and battery life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1499 Posted January 12, 2017 I have just visited the leakers Instagram account if there is any news. In the comment section, he gave information about the price and the weight of the M10. The weight given is 550 gram and the price is around 7650 dollars, but I am not sure if it is the USD or AUD, because the location is Australia. 550 gram would be a digital M on a radical diet and would at least mean a top deck in aluminum à la M262 and/or body parts in other materials than those we are used to. Even the smaller (depth wise) M-A without battery, sensor and electronics does not get into the 550 range. M240 => 680 g - depth 42 mm - die cast magnesium with top deck in brass M262 => 600 g - depth 42 mm - die cast magnesium with top deck in aluminum M-A => 578 g - depth 38 mm - die cast magnesium with top deck in brass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 12, 2017 Share #1500 Posted January 12, 2017 A hybrid viewfinder is very, very unlikely, in my opinion. The rumor site suggests that the camera will use the optional add-on EVF from the Leica T. That makes a lot more sense, and sounds like the Leica way. I don't think that Leica will mess with the optical viewfinder (except to refine it) as it's the essence of the Leica M. Leica T EVF would be a huge let down, Its way over priced and the resolution is barely adequate. An external SL quality EVF is what Leica should offer...but I doubt that will happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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