Dao De Leitz Posted November 4, 2019 Share #1321  Posted November 4, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) two days ago... , Palatinate Forest south    Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summaron-M 28mm  ( on  Flickr / large-scale / by  Dao De Leitz )     Thorsten 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summaron-M 28mm  ( on  Flickr / large-scale / by  Dao De Leitz )     Thorsten ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3847713'>More sharing options...
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SocialKonstruct Posted November 5, 2019 Share #1322 Â Posted November 5, 2019 On 10/17/2016 at 10:43 AM, luigi bertolotti said: It's chrome... Funny item... and I suppose it keeps the 1m minimum focus distance of its older Brother... I really want this lens even though I have the current 28mm ASPH Elmarit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1323  Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 10:25 AM, SocialKonstruct said: I really want this lens even though I have the current 28mm ASPH Elmarit. Aside from size, what do you see in it that the latest 28 Elmarit lacks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1324  Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, james.liam said: Aside from size, what do you see in it that the latest 28 Elmarit lacks? I think G.A.S. 😇  More seriously, I use some 28mm (with films and sensors) which has their own merit in each one. I use the two 28mm along, I can "see" the differences with the two in final results. Not that the Summaron-M is "better" than the Elmarit-M asph. but in feeling (I know not very scientific) when viewed the "same" subject,  there is kind of "sparkling gentleness" in the Summaron-m's image that the Elmarit-M asph. lacks. The Elmarit-M asph. is "better" in contrasting subject, but with more subtle lighting or coloring, the Summaron-M wins anytime.  The picture following is not a good example for Summaron rendering, I just want to point the "difference" with more modern lenses on one point, sun stars Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is wide open (f/5.6) with Summaron LTM 28mm asph. lens would give some sunstars (in my experiences) in the "spots" when close to f/5.6 (Summicron or Elmarit ! ) Edited November 9, 2019 by a.noctilux 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is wide open (f/5.6) with Summaron LTM 28mm asph. lens would give some sunstars (in my experiences) in the "spots" when close to f/5.6 (Summicron or Elmarit ! ) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3851237'>More sharing options...
lct Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1325  Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: more subtle lighting or coloring Would you say that the Summaron has less macro contrast than the Elmarit asph? Just curious as i hesitate to order this lens and pics above show more vignetting but also as much micro contrast as the Elmarit asph apparently. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1326 Â Posted November 9, 2019 Post # 1321 of Dao De Leitz shows really well what I feel about "subtle colorings" of Summaron 2.8cm or Summaron-M 28mm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1327 Â Posted November 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Post # 1321 of Dao De Leitz shows really well what I feel about "subtle colorings" of Summaron 2.8cm or Summaron-M 28mm. Nice pic thanks but looks pretty contrasty i must say. No sure the same result could not be achieved with the Elmarit asph, let alone that the natural vignetting of the Summaron seems to have been removed by the author. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1328  Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, lct said: Nice pic thanks but looks pretty contrasty i must say. No sure the same result could not be achieved with the Elmarit asph, let alone that the natural vignetting of the Summaron seems to have been removed by the author. Probably the modern coatings, I suppose. I think the pancake concept for M cameras is in line with the ideal of compact camera bodies; for instance, a new 50 Elmar M (?APO) or 35 Summaron ƒ/3.5 would be quite appealing. In the case of the 28 Summaron, seems more the look and handling of the tiny lens that appeals. The Elmarit is already small and its performance is stellar. Edited November 9, 2019 by james.liam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1329  Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, james.liam said: In the case of the 28 Summaron, seems more the look and handling of the tiny lens that appeals. I can't speak for other users but I like this lens because of the stunning photographs it can produce. The small size is a bonus, as for the look of it, I couldn't care less. Edited November 9, 2019 by ianman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1330  Posted November 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, ianman said: I can't speak for other users but I like this lens because of the stunning photographs it can produce. The small size is a bonus, as for the look of it, I couldn't care less. If I hadn't already had a 28 Elmarit, it would be a viable option. I don't see anything gained replacing the Elmarit or adding the Summaron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1331 Â Posted November 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, james.liam said: If I hadn't already had a 28 Elmarit, it would be a viable option. I don't see anything gained replacing the Elmarit or adding the Summaron. Sorry, I missed the start of the discussion, I didn't know you were asking about that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1332  Posted November 9, 2019 Reminds me of the work done by Leica on the Elmar-M 50/2.8 compared to the previous Elmar 50. More macro and micro contrast out of a similar optical formula. Might explain why the Summaron-M 28/5.6 has a different IQ to both Summaron 28/5.6 and Elmarit 28/2.8 asph, the same way as the Elmar-M 50/2.8 compared to both Elmar 50/2.8 and Summarit-M 50/2.5. Does it make any sense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dao De Leitz Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1333  Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) @lct:  ... #1321 ...  the natural vignetting of the Summaron seems to have been removed by the author. - exact, here with vignetting:    Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summaron-M 28mm    Which variant you all like more, is objectively better.    -     ...  does this remain a personal matter of taste? Thorsten Edited November 9, 2019 by Dao De Leitz ... without processing vignetting ~ with ... (edit) (;-) 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summaron-M 28mm    Which variant you all like more, is objectively better.    -     ...  does this remain a personal matter of taste? Thorsten ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3851367'>More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1334 Â Posted November 9, 2019 Thorsten, may I ask why you use the Summaron rather than a different 28mm? I don't understand why you would use this lens and remove one of its inherent features. I understand people don't like vignetting but then why buy the Summaron? I'm a sucker for natural vignetting, that is why I have the Summaron and not the Elmarit which was on my wish list before this one was released. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1335 Â Posted November 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dao De Leitz said: the natural vignetting of the Summaron seems to have been removed by the author. -Â exact, here without vignetting: You mean with vignetting i guess 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1336  Posted November 9, 2019 The degree of vignetting in a color landscape as in the one above, detracts from the image. More pleasing with street shots and small groups of people. Or B&W landscapes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialKonstruct Posted November 10, 2019 Share #1337  Posted November 10, 2019 15 hours ago, james.liam said: Aside from size, what do you see in it that the latest 28 Elmarit lacks? The 28 Elmarit is going to be more clinical than the dreamy funkiness of the Summaron  But I don't own the Summaron yet so can't say much LoL. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 10, 2019 Share #1338  Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SocialKonstruct said: The 28 Elmarit is going to be more clinical than the dreamy funkiness of the Summaron  But I don't own the Summaron yet so can't say much LoL. The Summaron-M is not a "dreamy" lens. On the contrary, it is actually very sharp (across most of the frame) nor could it be described as having insufficient contrast. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted November 10, 2019 Share #1339  Posted November 10, 2019 Spot-on : the Summaron is very sharp and, in terms of contrast, is great for film, but more contrasty than I would like for the M10, on which one has to underexpose more than with the Summicron 35v4 or Summilux 35 FLE to keep from blowing highlights. ___________________Frog Leaping book Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 10, 2019 Share #1340  Posted November 10, 2019 9 hours ago, SocialKonstruct said: The 28 Elmarit is going to be more clinical than the dreamy funkiness of the Summaron  But I don't own the Summaron yet so can't say much LoL. "I'm in love my beautiful wife, though I haven't met her yet." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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