pedaes Posted November 7, 2016 Share #381 Posted November 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was pleased there is no pink! These were imported RAW files to LR CC and resized for export to comply with LUF requirements. Who knows how others process files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Hi pedaes, Take a look here Leica Summaron-28 -image thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Jeff S Posted November 7, 2016 Share #382 Posted November 7, 2016 An excerpt from Puts' recent blog post.... ".....I will start a lengthy test procedure with the new Summaron 5.6/28, the current compact Elmarit 2.8/28 and the current 1.4/28. I will test the lenses on the MM-2 and on film. For the film I have selected the Ilford XP2 Super, a very fine grained emulsion with an extended dynamic range, I am very curious about the results." Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted November 7, 2016 Share #383 Posted November 7, 2016 An excerpt from Puts' recent blog post.... ".....I will start a lengthy test procedure with the new Summaron 5.6/28, the current compact Elmarit 2.8/28 and the current 1.4/28. I will test the lenses on the MM-2 and on film. For the film I have selected the Ilford XP2 Super, a very fine grained emulsion with an extended dynamic range, I am very curious about the results." Jeff Although I am a fan of Erwins, I am not sure what he is testing with the Summaron - especially in b&w. Be interesting. Here's a colour conversion. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3144186'>More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted November 7, 2016 Share #384 Posted November 7, 2016 I saw someone complaining on FB that they couldn't get their files to look right in Lightroom. They'd removed the vignette, converted to b&w and dodged and burned to the nth degree. Fair enough, personal choice is just that but I think this lens works best with very little editing. www.robertpoolephotography.com 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 7, 2016 Share #385 Posted November 7, 2016 My copy arrived last week, and today first chance to try it on a walk. I will probably have to put in seperate posts, and these are just snaps to show some of the 'character'. All at 5.6 with no hood on M(240), with no lens correction. Thanks for posting the photographs. I understand the the lens is already listed in the latest M(240) firmware, so if you had automatic lens detection switched on, it's possible that some correction is already dealt with in camera. Such as the pink corners issues that some others have shown. Argh, seeing these first examples starting to show up, I'm already getting impatient to get mine now... and I had promised myself that I would stay calm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 10, 2016 Share #386 Posted November 10, 2016 I finally had the chance to briefly try out this lens yesterday. Certainly a nice "thing" (though not quite as 'polished' and inherently desirable as I was anticipating) but I did find it rather fiddly to use. The most significant problem for me (and the reason why I'm holding off for the moment) is that, with ISO 200 film in my camera, I found myself at 1/30-1/50 wide open at 2pm in the afternoon and as much as I might try to convince myself that isn't going to be a problem (after all, photographers many years ago had to make do with ISO 25 and 50 and lenses that were often no faster than F3.5) I suspect I may find myself regretting buying this lens. I think I have been underestimating how often I probably find myself shooting at F2.8-4 on winter days though it shouldn't really come as a surprise – one of the reasons I sold my original Tri-Elmar many years ago was after feeling constrained by F4 and uncomfortably slow shutter speeds using Kodachrome 200 on grey winter days. All that said, a part of me likes to make my life deliberately awkward, so I haven't ruled the Summaron out yet . I suspect I may try it out again tomorrow (which is forecast to be sunny) and see how it fares with the sun in and around the frame. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted November 11, 2016 Share #387 Posted November 11, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) All this lens did to me was causing me to buy a mint aero ektar and Nikkor 105 f1.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted November 11, 2016 Share #388 Posted November 11, 2016 I finally had the chance to briefly try out this lens yesterday. Certainly a nice "thing" (though not quite as 'polished' and inherently desirable as I was anticipating) but I did find it rather fiddly to use. The most significant problem for me (and the reason why I'm holding off for the moment) is that, with ISO 200 film in my camera, I found myself at 1/30-1/50 wide open at 2pm in the afternoon and as much as I might try to convince myself that isn't going to be a problem (after all, photographers many years ago had to make do with ISO 25 and 50 and lenses that were often no faster than F3.5) I suspect I may find myself regretting buying this lens. I think I have been underestimating how often I probably find myself shooting at F2.8-4 on winter days though it shouldn't really come as a surprise – one of the reasons I sold my original Tri-Elmar many years ago was after feeling constrained by F4 and uncomfortably slow shutter speeds using Kodachrome 200 on grey winter days. All that said, a part of me likes to make my life deliberately awkward, so I haven't ruled the Summaron out yet . I suspect I may try it out again tomorrow (which is forecast to be sunny) and see how it fares with the sun in and around the frame. It would look wonderful on a silver chrome M-A... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 11, 2016 Share #389 Posted November 11, 2016 ...a part of me likes to make my life deliberately awkward... Ha ! I've been a member of that club for a while ! Thanks for sharing your thoughts ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted November 12, 2016 Share #390 Posted November 12, 2016 It would look wonderful on a silver chrome M-A... I want one more, but this one in black paint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted November 14, 2016 Share #391 Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Erwin Puts has posted Part 1 of his 28mm review. He describes the changes to the new v old factually. http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/lenses/styled-54/ Edited November 14, 2016 by pedaes 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 17, 2016 Share #392 Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Anyway to my question... a bit silly really but here goes. I suppose there needs to be a firmware update for the M9 to manage in-camera corrections, does Leica still support the older Ms in this regard ? To answer my own question the new firmware for the M9 is here: http://uk.leica-camera.com/Service-Support/Support/Downloads?category=93710&subcategory=93713&type=108942&language=93871 M9/M9-P/M-E Firmware Version 1.210 M Monochrom Firmware Version 1.016 The following improvements are included in these firmware updates: Support of the new lens: Leica Summaron-M 28 mm f/5.6 Edited November 17, 2016 by ianman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAUDUI1 Posted November 21, 2016 Share #393 Posted November 21, 2016 Hello, I am very happy with the old summaron 28 f5.6 from 1960. It is very compact and works really well on all Leica Ms, including the Leica M240. The only limitation is that I can not do some LV with it, as the camera detects no lens. I wonder if the new one will be any better, as it has the same formula. I have already seen the prices on ebay for an old one going up (up to 1000€ already). best regards. Dominique Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 21, 2016 Share #394 Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) [...] I am very happy with the old summaron 28 f5.6 from 1960. It is very compact and works really well on all Leica Ms, including the Leica M240. The only limitation is that I can not do some LV with it, as the camera detects no lens.[...] I have no experience with this lens but the fact that it is not recognized by the camera does not prevent the latter from working with it in LV/EVF mode i believe. Am i missing something? Edited November 21, 2016 by lct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 21, 2016 Share #395 Posted November 21, 2016 I have no experience with LV/EVF on an M but it's been established that the new lens is in the manual lens list, so maybe try setting it manually to the new version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevez4 Posted November 25, 2016 Share #396 Posted November 25, 2016 Wjere is the serial number of the screw mount Summeron 28mm lens located? Thanks for your help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted November 25, 2016 Share #397 Posted November 25, 2016 Wjere is the serial number of the screw mount Summeron 28mm lens located? Thanks for your help. I think it's near the rear element... so in the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted November 25, 2016 Share #398 Posted November 25, 2016 Hello,I am very happy with the old summaron 28 f5.6 from 1960. It is very compact and works really well on all Leica Ms, including the Leica M240. The only limitation is that I can not do some LV with it, as the camera detects no lens. I wonder if the new one will be any better, as it has the same formula. I have already seen the prices on ebay for an old one going up (up to 1000€ already).best regards.Dominique If you use an LTM to M adaptor with no indent, you can use Live View. Avoid using the infinity lock with this adaptor. This is not an issue with a wide- angle which does not need to be turned all of the way to be sharp to infinity. Leica should have produced the new lens as an LTM with an adaptor mount with six bit coding and an indent but they chose to produce in an M mount only. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 26, 2016 Share #399 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Wjere is the serial number of the screw mount Summeron 28mm lens located? Thanks for your help. Here... one of the most difficult to spot, indeed... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With this kind of adapter, youhave no problem with infinity lock and LV/EF on M240... but of course you must set manual lens setting, or lens recognition off. ( even if is someway unpleasant to leave the sensor code strip "air open"...) Edited November 26, 2016 by luigi bertolotti Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With this kind of adapter, youhave no problem with infinity lock and LV/EF on M240... but of course you must set manual lens setting, or lens recognition off. ( even if is someway unpleasant to leave the sensor code strip "air open"...) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3155983'>More sharing options...
epand56 Posted December 1, 2016 Share #400 Posted December 1, 2016 That's not kind of you Adam, you're responsible for my family starving for a while, since tomorrow morning I'm going to buy that lens... Will have to feed them bread and water for some time. Thank you for showing your great series of pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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