ramarren Posted January 8, 2017 Share #81 Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Somewhere in that progression Olympus produced their 11-22, which was not graded at their maximum level of coolness, but was my favorite of all that set. I bought another one when the M1 came out. Again, a lens I could use exclusively. scott We have more in common than I thought: my 11-22mm was one of only two lenses that I kept when I sold off the FourThirds SLR kit (the other was the cheap but brilliant 35 Macro, and I kept the E-1 body too). I've used both extensively with the E-M1 since 2013. If I were continuing with mFT, I could work with just those two lenses for a very very long time: they're such good performers and so versatile. The ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5 ED was announced on December 11, 2003 and went on sale in February, 2004 ... relatively early in the E-System development. At the time of its announcement, there were four other E-System lenses announced or available: ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm (28-108mm) F2.8~3.5 ZUIKO DIGITAL ED50-200mm (100-400mm) F2.8~3.5 ZUIKO DIGITAL ED50mm (100mm) F2 Macro ZUIKO DIGITAL ED300mm (600mm) F2.8 My E-1 was manufactured in October 2003, quite early in the E-System history, and is still going strong. :-) Edited January 8, 2017 by ramarren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scott kirkpatrick Posted January 9, 2017 Share #82 Posted January 9, 2017 I'm afraid my whole E-1 and E-3 kit was borrowed by burglars, but I found that of the four E-lenses I had from 2003 to 2006 or so, the 11-22 and the 50 were what I used, and what produced the pictures that I still keep around. scott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 17, 2017 Share #83 Posted January 17, 2017 and each one 2 kilos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted February 16, 2017 Share #84 Posted February 16, 2017 The SL product manager has a few pics of prototype/mockup SL 75 and 35 lenses on Instagram. http://instagram.com/steffen.skopp 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richherzog Posted February 16, 2017 Share #85 Posted February 16, 2017 I love my SL. But, I only use M lenses since the SL lenses are so large. I wonder if the lenses are designed for a medium format mirrorless camera that we will see in the future? Anyone know how large the image circle is on the SL lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alo Ako Posted February 16, 2017 Share #86 Posted February 16, 2017 ... since the SL lenses are so large. They are as large as the prime lenses of Nikon or Canon are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted February 26, 2017 Share #87 Posted February 26, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) They are as large as the prime lenses of Nikon or Canon are. The 50 'lux is significantly larger (and twice as heavy) than the EF 50L and the zooms are bigger too but with different focal ranges. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted February 26, 2017 Share #88 Posted February 26, 2017 The upcoming F2 primes look to be a much more compact size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted March 3, 2017 Share #89 Posted March 3, 2017 A little off subject, but does the absence of OIS in the lenses imply that the next iteration of SL will have sensor image stabilization? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 3, 2017 Share #90 Posted March 3, 2017 Hopefully so.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 3, 2017 Share #91 Posted March 3, 2017 A little off subject, but does the absence of OIS in the lenses imply that the next iteration of SL will have sensor image stabilization? No ..... it just means Leica think sub 90mm lenses don't need OIS ..... or the implementation compromises size/optical quality. Sorry, but I think if Leica have chosen an in-lens OIS pathway then I can't see them changing to in-body halfway ..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted March 3, 2017 Share #92 Posted March 3, 2017 Is it confirmed they won't have OIS? That is disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 3, 2017 Share #93 Posted March 3, 2017 Is it confirmed they won't have OIS? That is disappointing. No idea .... it would be nice if they did though ....... a 75/2 with effectively 3 stops knocked off with OIS would be very handy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 4, 2017 Share #94 Posted March 4, 2017 But the lenses would likely be smaller.and lighter without IS. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted March 5, 2017 Share #95 Posted March 5, 2017 From the interviews with Leica product executives (most of whom are named Stephan), I got the sense that they were concerned about recovering some of the Leica brand's reputation for smaller, lighter lenses as they release the f/2.0 primes for the SL. Hence I think IS is unlikely. If they ever release an SL macro lens, I would love to see that stabilized. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phovsho Posted March 5, 2017 Share #96 Posted March 5, 2017 What prices do folks expect the new lenses to come in at? Using B&H as guide the 24-90 is $4,950; the 90-280 $6,395; and 50 lux 5,295. In the m series the 35 and 50 crons are about 60% of the price of the lux equivalents (ignoring the 50 APO - but can we ignore it?) 35mm lens are typically in the order of 30% more expensive than the 50mm equivalents (35 lux is 5k v 3800 for the 50 lux, 35 cron is 3000 vs 2200 for 50 cron) So what might a sl-35 cron cost? using the Sl-50 as a starting point (5,300) and adjusting for the fact they are crons (5300 x .6 = 3180) and that it is a 35 mm (30% premium over the 50) the price might be around 4,150. The m 75 and 90 crons are approx 25% and 33% more expensive than the 35 cron, suggesting SL-75 $5,200 and the Sl-90 $5,500. So my guess Sl-50 5,295 Sl-35 4,200 Sl-75 5,200 Sl-90 5,500 Sound reasonable? I'm obviously just guessing and using some dodgy assumptions. But this has me thinking the sl crons won't be much (if at all) cheaper than the SL-50. And all this ignores there is the potential for an equivalent 50 APO premium - given all the talk from Leica that these lenses will set new benchmarks... Not willing to guess the price of the 16-35. Hope this piece of speculation doesn't offend anyone's sensibilities, as it is a bit frivolous and intended as a bit of fun . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted March 7, 2017 Share #97 Posted March 7, 2017 So my guess Sl-50 5,295 Sl-35 4,200 Sl-75 5,200 Sl-90 5,500 Sound reasonable? Good analysis, but I hope you're wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phovsho Posted March 7, 2017 Share #98 Posted March 7, 2017 So do I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 7, 2017 Share #99 Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) What prices do folks expect the new lenses to come in at? Using B&H as guide the 24-90 is $4,950; the 90-280 $6,395; and 50 lux 5,295. In the m series the 35 and 50 crons are about 60% of the price of the lux equivalents (ignoring the 50 APO - but can we ignore it?) 35mm lens are typically in the order of 30% more expensive than the 50mm equivalents (35 lux is 5k v 3800 for the 50 lux, 35 cron is 3000 vs 2200 for 50 cron) So what might a sl-35 cron cost? using the Sl-50 as a starting point (5,300) and adjusting for the fact they are crons (5300 x .6 = 3180) and that it is a 35 mm (30% premium over the 50) the price might be around 4,150. The m 75 and 90 crons are approx 25% and 33% more expensive than the 35 cron, suggesting SL-75 $5,200 and the Sl-90 $5,500. So my guess Sl-50 5,295 Sl-35 4,200 Sl-75 5,200 Sl-90 5,500 Sound reasonable? I'm obviously just guessing and using some dodgy assumptions. But this has me thinking the sl crons won't be much (if at all) cheaper than the SL-50. And all this ignores there is the potential for an equivalent 50 APO premium - given all the talk from Leica that these lenses will set new benchmarks... Not willing to guess the price of the 16-35. Hope this piece of speculation doesn't offend anyone's sensibilities, as it is a bit frivolous and intended as a bit of fun . Taking the two zooms as starting points the prices should be much lower. The primes will have only few lenses (optical elements) and accordingy the mechanical build will also be much simpler than the zooms. For the primes prices around 3000 to 3500 should be more than enough. Compare also to the T prices. If they are higher, I will definitely not buy primes and live with zooms only - not so bad after all. And why should 75 or 90 (with their simple constructions) cost 5000 ? (Zeiss offers Oti with extraordinary constructions at that price). If an ordinary 90 is already 5000 then a macro 100 would cost 8k or 10k - more than the S macro (Btw I wonder what the X1D macro will cost). A different story is the 16-35 . Probably even more effort than the two existing zooms, so I expect a price above them. Maybe 8k ? But 6k (like the 90-280) should be enough. With the prices from above (on the level of S lenses) Leica is in danger of losing the last practitioners. But maybe collectors are a better clientele after all. Alas I do not know many companies (tech companies) that were surviving several years with collector items exclusively (Hassy just made the turn). And I have the impression that the SL is not regarded as a collectable item (at least by the current collectors). Edited March 7, 2017 by caissa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxo Posted March 7, 2017 Share #100 Posted March 7, 2017 What about size and weight of the new lenses. Any guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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