kevin77 Posted September 17, 2016 Share #1 Posted September 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi folks, I have an opportunity to buy a M-240 which is in reasonable condition... EXCEPT the sensor creates photos with a BLUE horizontal line (photo further down) Does anybody know what I will cost to repair the problem... or is it a simple software/remapping issue? The sale is about US$3300. It has shutter count of 4300. Apparently this happened after a long exposure shot. Advice would be much appreciated. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/264630-buy-to-fix-leica-m-240/?do=findComment&comment=3113882'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted September 17, 2016 Share #2 Posted September 17, 2016 It could get very expensive or it could be a free fix on courtesy, depending on the problem Leica finds. If you like the roll of the dice... I suspect it is being sold because the seller has a good reason, for instance knowledge of the price of repair. I would not pay that much for a camera with a problem. You might be without it for quite a while too. Personally I would walk away from the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 17, 2016 Share #3 Posted September 17, 2016 I wouldn't buy it either, not unless I knew the seller well and understood the full story. The chances of missing a bargain are smaller and probably more acceptable than the chances of ending up paying over the odds for a properly-working camera. If it were very cheap and easy to fix, the owner could get it fixed and then sell it for a full price. So why haven't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 17, 2016 Share #4 Posted September 17, 2016 Hi folks, I have an opportunity to buy a M-240 which is in reasonable condition... EXCEPT the sensor creates photos with a BLUE horizontal line (photo further down) Does anybody know what I will cost to repair the problem... or is it a simple software/remapping issue? [...] Too low a price for that simple an issue IMHO. I would get out of there unless the seller is a pro dealer offering a trusty warranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin77 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted September 17, 2016 I wouldn't buy it either, not unless I knew the seller well and understood the full story. The chances of missing a bargain are smaller and probably more acceptable than the chances of ending up paying over the odds for a properly-working camera. If it were very cheap and easy to fix, the owner could get it fixed and then sell it for a full price. So why haven't they? Apparently he doesn't have the time due to travel commitments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin77 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted September 17, 2016 Too low a price for that simple an issue IMHO. I would get out of there unless the seller is a pro dealer offering a trusty warranty. I have scouted ebay and the cheapest i've see which has sold is about 4K (i guess with out problems). I was hoping somebody had experienced this issue and has dealt with Leica about this. The threads I have read were repaired under warranty. Has anybody had a sensor replaced before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 17, 2016 Share #7 Posted September 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can you show a photograph of the line? Not the LCD Image..........A real phot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 17, 2016 Share #8 Posted September 17, 2016 A number of issues come to mind. Leica USA will not extend guaranty to a second owner, if it is grey import they will not touch it at all. That would mean dealing with Leica Wetzlar. If it is the LCD it will be a costly repair, the whole camera has to be taken apart. If it is the sensor, the repair will be even more costly. The strange thing is that it runs across both halves of the sensor. Does it show up on the photographs? Take into account that the repair time will often run into months. As for the explanation of the seller, I find it rather thin. Lack of time does not stop anybody from dropping off a parcel in the mail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted September 17, 2016 Share #9 Posted September 17, 2016 Im also surprised the seller has quite confidently advised you that the shutter count is 4300... I am not aware of how I would find the number of shutter actuations on my 240 (M-P)... as far as I was aware, that function has been removed from the menu from the original 240 onwards. Something doesn't quite feel right about this. I would avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 17, 2016 Share #10 Posted September 17, 2016 That too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin77 Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted September 17, 2016 Can you show a photograph of the line? Not the LCD Image..........A real phot? A number of issues come to mind. Leica USA will not extend guaranty to a second owner, if it is grey import they will not touch it at all. That would mean dealing with Leica Wetzlar. If it is the LCD it will be a costly repair, the whole camera has to be taken apart. If it is the sensor, the repair will be even more costly. The strange thing is that it runs across both halves of the sensor. Does it show up on the photographs? Take into account that the repair time will often run into months. As for the explanation of the seller, I find it rather thin. Lack of time does not stop anybody from dropping off a parcel in the mail. I have requested for a jpg/raw. It does show on the pictures and because the line appears on the upper edge he manages to get away with it by cropping it out in post. Maybe I won't bother with the headache... especially when it's my first Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 17, 2016 Share #12 Posted September 17, 2016 There are plenty of other fish in the ocean... For instance on this forum I see a couple of nice looking ones, one @ 3750 Euro and one @ 3150 GBP. The safest way is of course to go through a reputable dealer who can offer a guaranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted September 17, 2016 Share #13 Posted September 17, 2016 I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. OP, please take the advice and wait for a working M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 19, 2016 Share #14 Posted September 19, 2016 The fact this owner hasn't had it fixed suggests to me either a) he merely assumes he'd be on the hook for a huge repair bill since the camera is out of warranty; or he bought the camera used un-certified from a private seller and Leica wants to charge him for a new sensor and/or motherboard or some very expensive repair. I might bite on it for $2K but not a cent more, because at $3K a $1200-1500 repair would put you over value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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