Manolo Laguillo Posted July 28, 2016 Share #21 Posted July 28, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Fascinating thread but... in order to really see the difference between CCD (006) and CMOS (007) sensors, you need both cameras at same locations with same lens and no filter or setting adjustments.. If someone can do the experiment and show the representative files, we will all profit... Albert That's all right! How can we forget it? Nearly everybody can detect a false note when someone plays a melody. But regarding colors, hues etc this doesn't apply: in this realm there is no equivalency with the so-called absolute, or perfect, pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Hi Manolo Laguillo, Take a look here Leica S007 color profiles compared to the old S006. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mwilliamsphotography Posted August 7, 2016 Share #22 Posted August 7, 2016 I think there are enough images of various subjects from both sensors for one to make an informed decision as to which one they aesthetically gravitate to. If you are ambivalent about any color differences, or feel any camera can be profiled to your taste, then other considerations can be the deciding factor ... like live view or higher ISO of the 007. I gravitate to the CCD look and feel, and do not need nor particularly want live view or high ISO for the work I do with my S system. I'll use the 006 until forced to the CMOS S camera that's available when the time comes. Meanwhile, I'm happy with the 006 results, and do not have to pay more $ for awhile. - Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2016 Share #23 Posted August 8, 2016 OK Marc ... I am convinced that the CCD is for me a better choice ... my S 006 and lenses are returning as my dealer says the sensor is pristine ... no sign of corrosion ... I do pray that is correct. Again the Leica glass is so compelling that I am willing to endure the upgrade to their customer service. Here is hoping ..... Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2016 Share #24 Posted August 8, 2016 Perhaps a model for them to consider .... http://www.camerawest.com/cwblog/2016/08/08/guest-blog-jeff-cables-inside-canons-olympic-operations/ Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted August 10, 2016 Share #25 Posted August 10, 2016 Perhaps a model for them to consider .... http://www.camerawest.com/cwblog/2016/08/08/guest-blog-jeff-cables-inside-canons-olympic-operations/ Bob Same setup was at the London Olympics - Swarming 1DX's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kparseg Posted August 12, 2016 Share #26 Posted August 12, 2016 Perhaps a model for them to consider .... http://www.camerawest.com/cwblog/2016/08/08/guest-blog-jeff-cables-inside-canons-olympic-operations/ Bob I have Platinum CPS membership, and Canon's customer support is indeed one of the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted August 17, 2016 Share #27 Posted August 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) There is an explanation as to why this occurs in a white paper found in technical support on the BetterLight website. http://www.betterlight.com/downloads/whitePaper/wp_color_accurate_photo.pdf This color shift is a minor issue and stacking IR filters also works but leads to inconveniently long exposures. At the same time, a richer (redder) blue is part of what gives the CCD sensor its distinctive look. You can see an example of the oversaturated and magenta cast blues in JPK's seascape photo posted above. I like the CCD look but it can be a bit too postcardish at times. (I'm not saying JPK's photo is postcardish. It is rather nice.) Thanks! The BetterLight article is interesting. After trying several solutions to oversaturated and magenta contaminated blues, I ended up going into selective color in photoshop and subtracting a small amount of magenta in blue. This provided a quick work around. Did you also find a solution for Lightroom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted October 2, 2016 Share #28 Posted October 2, 2016 I successfully tried to subtract magenta from blue in Photoshop "selective color" (thanks for the hint), and also found an easy way to do this in Lightroom (very similar to HSL): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262880-leica-s007-color-profiles-compared-to-the-old-s006/?do=findComment&comment=3122424'>More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted October 3, 2016 Share #29 Posted October 3, 2016 Can you tell which is the S006 and which is the S007 file? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Same preset applied to both in LR. Both using Adobe Standard camera profile. The color rendering between the cameras is remarkably similar. On the shots posted above, I think the WB was too cool and the shots were slightly overexposed. Dial back the exposure and warm up the WB and I think the result will be more to your liking. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Same preset applied to both in LR. Both using Adobe Standard camera profile. The color rendering between the cameras is remarkably similar. On the shots posted above, I think the WB was too cool and the shots were slightly overexposed. Dial back the exposure and warm up the WB and I think the result will be more to your liking. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262880-leica-s007-color-profiles-compared-to-the-old-s006/?do=findComment&comment=3123220'>More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 3, 2016 Share #30 Posted October 3, 2016 Perhaps a model for them to consider .... http://www.camerawest.com/cwblog/2016/08/08/guest-blog-jeff-cables-inside-canons-olympic-operations/ Bob Actually this is one of the reasons I gave up on Canon and CPS. In 15 years as a CPS member, EVERY time I needed a loaner I got told none were available because everything was reserved for some event. Once I took in an EOS 1V for a blown shutter under warranty and the only camera they could offer me was an EOS 300(0) because everything else was allocated to the formula one. What use is a pro service program if there's never any loaners for small players like me? If I have to own my own spares may as well save the money and shoot what I really want to shoot with. Mind you this was 10 years ago in Oz. I can't speak for the US or anywhere else. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 4, 2016 Share #31 Posted October 4, 2016 Can you tell which is the S006 and which is the S007 file? L1004657.jpg L1008050.jpg Same preset applied to both in LR. Both using Adobe Standard camera profile. The color rendering between the cameras is remarkably similar. On the shots posted above, I think the WB was too cool and the shots were slightly overexposed. Dial back the exposure and warm up the WB and I think the result will be more to your liking. Peter the bottom one is the 007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted October 4, 2016 Share #32 Posted October 4, 2016 I say bottom is 006... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted October 4, 2016 Share #33 Posted October 4, 2016 Bottom is 007; the colours are a bit more saturated. Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted October 4, 2016 Share #34 Posted October 4, 2016 I would say first S006 and second S007. (I hope its the other way around since I now own the S007) Second some colors are a little more saturated. The first one looks slightly more neutral/realistic for my eyes and on my monitor/screen. So I slightly prefer the first one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted October 4, 2016 Share #35 Posted October 4, 2016 First one is S007, second is S006. I actually had to pull up Lightroom and check the file names against the metadata. Otherwise, I'd just be guessing. My point was to show that there isn't very much difference in the color rendering between these two. You can easily adjust color saturation overall or on a per-channel basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted October 4, 2016 Share #36 Posted October 4, 2016 My old S2 was by default always a bit more saturated and contrasty than my S007, which is always more neutral and realistic by default. I am surprised to read users of the S006 here saying the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHNL Posted October 4, 2016 Share #37 Posted October 4, 2016 The two images are not totally matched for sure that top is noticeable warmer on my calibrated monitors. That will make it difficult to tell which is which. My comment is this, if I want match two images shooting with different camera at the same time and spot, I can always do it to the point that they are close enough. but that is not very meaningful for real world usage. I have both S007 and S2/S006 at the same time, and the file looks definitely different. some time I prefer S007 and sometime I prefer S006. Most cases I prefer S007 are from Landscape with difficult light as it simply has more room to edit but for portrait and skin tone, I always prefer S006's rendering given enough light. This is the main reason I finally choose S006 over S007 as for high dynamic range landscape or difficult lighting condition I feel I can get good performance from Nikon/Sony setup which is smaller and easier to use. and under good light, not very high DR scene, S006 is really shine and perform beautifully, nothing touch it for my use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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