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I own a MacroElmar 90 and it is perfect for me, this F4.0 does not bother me because M8 is still good at ASA1250 and I own the S'lux 75 1.4 for situations in which I want selective sharpness. Focussing is no problem and it is very accurate. Here's an example from a handheld capture (cropped).

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I have a collapsible 90/4 Elmar... Has anyone experience with those classics to draw on, to help me decide whether it is worth the CLA cost to make it usable?...

I have one from 1957 but i did not try it with the M8, only film and R-D1.

From f/ 5.6 to f/11 it looks slightly sharper than my 2 other 90 (Elmarit # 11129, Tele-Elmarit # 11800) but it is a bit soft at f/4.

As far as flare it is far from perfect but it's better than the Tele-Elmarit.

 

Elmar 90/4 # 11131 at f/4:

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Elmarit 90/2.8 # 11129 at f/2.8:

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Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8 # 11800 at f/2.8:

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I have one from 1957 but i did not try it with the M8, only film and R-D1.

From f/ 5.6 to f/11 it looks slightly sharper than my 2 other 90 (Elmarit # 11129, Tele-Elmarit # 11800) but it is a bit soft at f/4.

As far as flare it is far from perfect but it's better than the Tele-Elmarit.

 

Elmar 90/4 # 11131 at f/4:

07EPSN0639_9040web.jpg

 

 

Thanks for the data. I may try to get my collapsible cleaned up later this year.

 

scott

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as there are many Leica 90's and few (other than Putts & Reid) have experience with many of them

I have experience with only one, which I recent acquired used at a local camera shop for what I consider a bargain

it is a serial number 279 xxxx with a 48 mm ring and a built in tripod attachment

it's performance both stopped down & opened up seems stellar

 

open close up

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open distance

 

stopped down

 

all were hand held & with an ir/cut filter

larger versions can be found here Leica M8 photographs Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com along with other samples & shooting information

 

this lens draws beautifully on the M8 and is tack sharp ...I am amazed at how well this older design lens deals with CA & it produces lovely bokeh

fortune smiled on me when I walked into that camera shop

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M8; 90mm Summicron-M APO Asph

 

It's a nice lens but it gets a little clunky focusing it using the little frame lines. Magnifier can be attached to improve it. If you are wearing glasses, be sure to get the Leica's version (which is expensive) because the ones sold by HK Supplies has no rubber protection and it will scratch your glasses.

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the CV is superb but 3.5 is limiting to me for portraits.

 

after trying multiple versions of the 90 including the 2.8 elmarit (thin, very reasonable$$$ and exceptional the 2.8 - 2.0 difference is noticeable for portratits). i finalized with the last pre asph 90 cron.

 

actually ended up with mostly the past pre asph liking them more than the asphs the exception being the 21mm asph, if felt the pre asph disappionting. the only other asp i have is the tri-elmar and the wate on order.

 

the asphs may have beterr contrast resolution...??? but my last few clients remarked that i must have gone back to film based on thier portraiture.

 

horses for courses but i find such difference in how leica (and CV lenses) paint a picture.

 

need them all when the docs say pick 2 aarrgghh

 

bill

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Couple offbeat 90 cron wide open shots

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Shot this weekend with Macro-90 at minimum focus distance w/o the macro device.:p

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I'm really looking forward to getting my 90mm Macro.

 

One question - does the macro attachment/googles simply enable/improve focusing or does it also shorten the minimum focus distance?

 

Cheers

 

M

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Murray

 

You can think of the macro adapter as being an extension ring which changes to focus range from 0.8 - Infinity to 0.5 to 0.76m. The goggles adjust the main and rangefinder windows to look at the closer object. Finally, the lens is mounted upside down to preset the user with a different distance and depth of field scale and a different profile focussing cam through a small plunger which presses against the roller.

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It's the Asph one . Here is another. this lens does draw very nice

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I'm really looking forward to getting my 90mm Macro.

 

One question - does the macro attachment/googles simply enable/improve focusing or does it also shorten the minimum focus distance?

 

Cheers

 

M

Take care Murray - my 90 macro elmar back focused and was soft - I'd registered it, so it had to go back to Solms - for 4 weeks or more - it's come back, and it back focuses and is soft (different, better even, but still unusable).

 

If I were you I'd check it out straight away, and return it to your dealer if it isn't okay. I bought mine over two months ago, and still don't have a good lens :(

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"Best" is always subjective, of course. All depends on subject matter, shooting location and need for speed.

 

Hand's down, the 90-APO Summicron is my choice for all around "best" 90.

 

BUT ... there are times when you may just not want to pack its bulk. Some years ago I picked up a clean, compact 90 Tele-Elmarit 2.8 and have yet to be disappointed by any image it has captured. Doesn't get used a lot but always comes through for me when I do use it.

 

It all depends on your shooting requirements and ability to tolerate the extra weight of the larger lens.

 

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Thanks guys for all your precious answer!!!!!

after reading and especially viewing your posts, yesterday I decided to go to my Leica dealer and try some of these lenses.

I could try the Cron and the Elmarit.

I loved the Elmar since the first glimpse through the box... I loved his weight and $!!:D

I could imagine a real better quality of the Cron due to his price.... but i couldn't notice so much (I know it's my fault!)... so i think that I will be a new 90 elmarit owner soooooon.... i'm just waiting to see and try the Macro one....

I will let you informed step by step!and open a new thread!!

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I don't have the M8, just film M's; I made the choice of the Macro Elmar, it is a lovely little beast. I read on a french mag recently a comparison of all the lenses for the M8 and their choice was precisely this Macro Elmar as the best tele lens for the M8.

 

Here is a picture taken hand held 1/4sec f4 on slide then scanned, it gives an idea of how it handles high contrast

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