Budfox Posted July 7, 2016 Share #1 Posted July 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am seeing a few posts by M262 / M-D owners stating that there is slightly improved image quality and even less banding at higher ISOs on the M262 series cameras. As the cameras are meant to have identical sensors, do we think this is just new owner's biased impressions (nothing wrong with that btw) is could there be something in this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 7, 2016 Posted July 7, 2016 Hi Budfox, Take a look here M262 vs M240 image quality. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
edwardkaraa Posted July 7, 2016 Share #2 Posted July 7, 2016 I didn't do any critical tests, but I feel the M262 may have around one stop advantage at high iso. There is still some faint banding, but a huge improvement over the M240. The color profile is quite different too, with more electric blues and purer reds. With ACR, my standard daylight setting for the M240 is 5300/10, while with the M262, it is 5000/0, both with embedded profile. The sensor is not the same, by the way. Leica claims it uses different technology, whatever that means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budfox Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted July 7, 2016 Thanks Edwardkaraa, Can you let me know where you heard that the sensor uses different technology? I have not seen that anywhere in the promotional material. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted July 7, 2016 Share #4 Posted July 7, 2016 I think the sensor is the same, only the signal processing is different because there is no LV. Thats why the M-D 262 and the M 262 have the same type name. Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted July 7, 2016 Share #5 Posted July 7, 2016 It was mentioned in LFI first issue of 2016. They didn't say it's a different sensor, they said different technology. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted July 7, 2016 Share #6 Posted July 7, 2016 I'm not sure if it's ok to show a snapshot of the LFI article. If not, moderators please delete this post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budfox Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share #7 Posted July 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ok many thanks ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobble Posted July 7, 2016 Share #8 Posted July 7, 2016 After more than a month of use it is apparent the M 262 Image quality is better than that of the M-240 (which i have used since it became available). . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm_user Posted July 8, 2016 Share #9 Posted July 8, 2016 Anyone have both that could provide a side by side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdano Posted July 8, 2016 Share #10 Posted July 8, 2016 I didn't do any critical tests, but I feel the M262 may have around one stop advantage at high iso. There is still some faint banding, but a huge improvement over the M240. The color profile is quite different too, with more electric blues and purer reds. With ACR, my standard daylight setting for the M240 is 5300/10, while with the M262, it is 5000/0, both with embedded profile. The sensor is not the same, by the way. Leica claims it uses different technology, whatever that means. Edward - you are right about the blues and reds. I find the M262 colours different enough from the M-P I just sold - to my eye the blues, reds, aquas and purples feel denser. Thorsten Overgaard recently posted two comparative X-Rite colorchecker images that show the colour differences between the 262 and 240 which sold me on the 262. The following dropbox link to a small group of images hopefully illustrate these subtle but apparent colour densities. All images generated with the M262 + 24mm 3.8 were taken July 6 between 3 and 5 PM around Victoria, BC in direct overhead sunlight (far from ideal) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/borvrgwfsovpoiz/AADvQ-IsxTfl51btqaCD_i4Fa?dl=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 30, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 30, 2017 There are two things to be separated here. The 262 probably has a more stable power management, resulting in less banding and thus better high ISO performance The colour differences between the two are due to slightly different colour handling in the camera and can be cancelled out completely by the camera profiles in LR. Possibly Leica got the Bayer filter from a different supplier making the change needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 5, 2017 Share #12 Posted February 5, 2017 This is good to know, TY Edward. I had thought it was 240 sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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