Leica SL or Hasselblad X1D

[Peter H]

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Any sign of multi-point AF?

 

Not a deal-breaker for me but unless I'm completely misreading things it looks like it won't be happening.

 

In any event, I can't see how it could easily be controlled apart from on the touchscreen which is only useful for tripod work. Otherwise without a joystick or pad and just the two control wheels available it doesn't look like it would be an intuitive process or that the camera has been designed for it.

[Jeff S]

Any sign of multi-point AF?

 

 

 

Post 856.  

 

Reps indicated last June that this would be part of release.

 

Jeff

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Any sign of multi-point AF?

 

Not a deal-breaker for me but unless I'm completely misreading things it looks like it won't be happening.

 

In any event, I can't see how it could easily be controlled apart from on the touchscreen which is only useful for tripod work. Otherwise without a joystick or pad and just the two control wheels available it doesn't look like it would be an intuitive process or that the camera has been designed for it.

 

Nor me, I am looking forward to getting my hands on the Hasselblad.

[wellfleet]

Any sign of multi-point AF?

 

Not a deal-breaker for me but unless I'm completely misreading things it looks like it won't be happening.

 

In any event, I can't see how it could easily be controlled apart from on the touchscreen which is only useful for tripod work. Otherwise without a joystick or pad and just the two control wheels available it doesn't look like it would be an intuitive process or that the camera has been designed for it.

 

 

Ming Thein just commented that both the touchscreen and the command dials can be used to control the AF ponits.

Edited December 7, 2016 by wellfleet

[Jeff S]

B&H is now listing X1D expected delivery date of February, 2017.

 

Jeff

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Ming Thein just commented that both the touchscreen and the command dials can be used to control the AF ponits.

 

Yes that would be a good way to do it.

[LocalHero1953]

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Yes that would be a good way to do it.

It's the only way to do it without a joystick. But I don't think it is a good way, unless you're holding the camera away from the eye to use the touchscreen (and try using a finger for fine adjustment of focus point). Holding it to the eye, two horizontal dials will not be an instinctive way of working. 

 

Edit: I have no interest in buying the X1D, though I am always interested in what competing high end makers are doing. In this case, implementing multipoint focusing without a joystick or similar looks odd.

Edited December 8, 2016 by LocalHero1953

[steppenw0lf]

Not new, but maybe useful. Full res sample shots.

http://petapixel.com/2016/07/08/hasselblad-x1d-full-res-sample-photos/

[wattsy]

Not new, but maybe useful. Full res sample shots.

http://petapixel.com/2016/07/08/hasselblad-x1d-full-res-sample-photos/

 

 

Not any more. The maximum size is now 2048px square.

[meerec]

It's the only way to do it without a joystick. But I don't think it is a good way, unless you're holding the camera away from the eye to use the touchscreen (and try using a finger for fine adjustment of focus point). Holding it to the eye, two horizontal dials will not be an instinctive way of working. 

 

Edit: I have no interest in buying the X1D, though I am always interested in what competing high end makers are doing. In this case, implementing multipoint focusing without a joystick or similar looks odd.

+1

[meerec]

Not new, but maybe useful. Full res sample shots.

http://petapixel.com/2016/07/08/hasselblad-x1d-full-res-sample-photos/

I have DNGs I shot with the X1D but by friend would not let them realease into public.

We are both always concerned with internet privacy :-D

[Peter H]

It's the only way to do it without a joystick. But I don't think it is a good way, unless you're holding the camera away from the eye to use the touchscreen (and try using a finger for fine adjustment of focus point). Holding it to the eye, two horizontal dials will not be an instinctive way of working. 

 

Edit: I have no interest in buying the X1D, though I am always interested in what competing high end makers are doing. In this case, implementing multipoint focusing without a joystick or similar looks odd.

 

 

 

Yes, I think it is odd which is why I was sceptical about whether we'd actually see multi-point AF at all, but I was wrong apparently. Which is a small bonus for me, even if the control is implemented better in almost all other contemporary cameras!

[wellfleet]

Re: shipping...

 

 

This was just posted  by Hasselblad at DPI, so maybe the B&H info is for new orders only.

message #237 - http://www.getdpi.com/forum/medium-format-systems-and-digital-backs/59983-where-x1d-5.html

"Hi guys,

Our previous communication here is still very valid and we are fully committed to start fulfilling end-user orders this month. Unfortunately, we will not be able to fulfil all the backorders this year, but we are doing all we can to ship out as many X1Ds as possible.

We will communicate more firm dates and volumes shortly. We kindly ask you for your patience.

// The Hasselblad Team”

Edited December 8, 2016 by wellfleet

[Belle123]

My shop got their demo version this week and contacted me saying Hasselblad will be shipping orders next week. So, maybe some of us that have been on the wait list long enough will receive. I don't know where I am on the list, but the fact I was contacted has me a tad excited!

[Guest]

Billinghambaglady, you are right to be excited! It is a great camera. I have had 2 hours of demo now and I am really pleased with what I have seen, handled and been able to check the results and play with the files, the end result! They are impressive files, in and out of the studio.

[Peter H]

Billinghambaglady, you are right to be excited! It is a great camera. I have had 2 hours of demo now and I am really pleased with what I have seen, handled and been able to check the results and play with the files, the end result! They are impressive files, in and out of the studio.

 

Agreed, it is the quality of the photos that is paramount and they are the best I've used from a digital camera. That combined with the ease of use and superb handling are the things that mark this camera out from the herd. It won't suit everyone but for those it does, it certainly is something to get excited about.

[Jeff S]

And the Rumors site is now saying "the M10 to be announced on January 18, 2017".

 

Jeff

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

And the Rumors site is now saying "the M10 to be announced on January 18, 2017".

 

Jeff

Mate

My SL & Noctilux left Scotland today. Hopefully it will arrive at my gaff on Monday......... got the S to L adapter already and also the neverflx Nikon to L as well........ might even take the SL on Safari in Feb and see how she handles 600mm f4[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

 

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[Jeff S]

Mate

My SL & Noctilux left Scotland today. Hopefully it will arrive at my gaff on Monday......... got the S to L adapter already and also the neverflx Nikon to L as well........ might even take the SL on Safari in Feb and see how she handles 600mm f4

 

 

 

 

Great....after lugging all that around, you should be well prepped for a new lighter M by Spring.

 

Jeff

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[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Great....after lugging all that around, you should be well prepped for a new lighter M by Spring.

 

Jeff

i thought you said it will be available on January 18th

 

 

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