Feeling Sad about the CCD Replacement

[rqy1996]

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I sent my leica m9 to Leica Bellevue, 3 days ago, and they said they would send it out for repairing. 

 

 Just read several posts, people said it would take 3 - 4 months for CCD replacement. 

 

 

 

However, I need a camera for the spring quarter as I am a college student and in two photography classes. I own a Canon 5D2 and a Leica R9 both seems too large and heavy for my projects. So I've purchased a leica q, it works perfect but the feeling is still different and the distortion is unacceptable comparing to the M system.

 

Should I return the leica q and find a used M body in the market?

 

Or should I keep the Q?(Even though I could purchase for leica, it still means a lot money to me as a college student)

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[CheshireCat]

If you could afford a Q, then you could have afforded a used M240.

Return your Q and go for it.

[Stefan Herzberg]

I sent my leica m9 to Leica Bellevue, 3 days ago, and they said they would send it out for repairing. 

 

 Just read several posts, people said it would take 3 - 4 months for CCD replacement. 

 

 

 

However, I need a camera for the spring quarter as I am a college student and in two photography classes. I own a Canon 5D2 and a Leica R9 both seems too large and heavy for my projects. So I've purchased a leica q, it works perfect but the feeling is still different and the distortion is unacceptable comparing to the M system.

 

Should I return the leica q and find a used M body in the market?

 

Or should I keep the Q?(Even though I could purchase for leica, it still means a lot money to me as a college student)

I am in a similiar situation, waiting for the sensor replacement on my M 9  while planning a trip where I would like to use my lenses. A dealer offers me a Leica M E at a very good price (new below 3000 USD). So I will go for it. If the M9 comes back I can sell it and keep the ME with two years warranty.Why should I look into the Q when I have various M lenses?

 

It depends on how many M lenses you have of course. I would return the q and try to find a used M , even a M 8. You will not loose money on them, once you decide to sell when your M is back.

Good luck 

[jaapv]

Why didn't you send it in after the project? After all, normally corrosion can be treated like dust in Photoshop, even using an action or droplet.

 

Anyway, contact Leica yourself and explain your predicament. You may find them very helpful.

[Geoffrey James]

Jaap,  Mine got to the point where the clean-up took forever, and could be really tricky according to the background.  I  now have an M9 backup. The Q is seductive,  but there is noticeably more edge distortion than on a 28 Summicron or V4 Elmarit.  And I personally far prefer the optical view finder.  The M9 makes the photographer take charge, and that for me is a good thing.  

[Rus]

Perhaps see if you can get a loaner M9 from your local Leica distributor? Not much hope for that if you are in London tho... Leica Mayfair in London seems to have an infinitely long waiting list for loaner M9's. 

 

If i were you I'd probably see if I can trade in the Q for a used M240. (or maybe a type 262? if there is anyone who would like to part with it this early... The 262 would feel more similar to the M9 in terms of weight I think)

[CheshireCat]

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If i were you I'd probably see if I can trade in the Q for a used M240. (or maybe a type 262? if there is anyone who would like to part with it this early... The 262 would feel more similar to the M9 in terms of weight I think)

 

 

Not much. I recommend to stay away from the M262, also to reinforce the message that we don't want castrated editions.

[Duane Pandorf]

Not much. I recommend to stay away from the M262, also to reinforce the message that we don't want castrated editions.

 

Or keep using the M9/M-E/262 so you don't feel you have a "bloated" camera with all those extra features you'll never use in the M240 line.

[uhoh7]

Work with your dealer and Leica and get a loner!

 

I have seen many accomplish this. Squeaky wheel

[CheshireCat]

Or keep using the M9/M-E/262 so you don't feel you have a "bloated" camera with all those extra features you'll never use in the M240 line.

 

 

You will use them once you know better. Enjoy your castrated camera.

[Duane Pandorf]

You will use them once you know better. Enjoy your castrated camera.

Used a loaner M240 for 5 months while my "castrated" camera was getting a new sensor. Never used the video. I'd upgrade to the 262 to get ISO3200, quieter shutter and additional battery life. That would be it. If I wanted a "full" featured camera that included the kitchen sink like the M240 tried to be I'd buy the SL. The M was originally designed to be simple. I'm glad the 262 and SL are available as they're both great options.

[MarkP]

Welcome to the Forum.

 

If you really like the Q, and it's 28-50mm range of focal lengths lets you do what you need for your course, and the effective sensor crop at 35 & 50mm is not a problem, then maybe you should keep it.

If not, and you can return it without significant financial penalty, then get a FF interchangeable lens M camera as it will be more versatile.

 

I say this as someone who doesn't have a Q but a number of Leica M cameras.  Those here who own the Q really like it.

 

Regards,

Mark

 

 

You're most lucky to have such cameras as a student.

Or you're starving or selling yourself on the streets ;-)

[MarkP]

Welcome to the Forum.

 

If you really like the Q, and it's 28-50mm range of focal lengths lets you do what you need for your course, and the effective sensor crop at 35 & 50mm is not a problem, and your other cameras can also do the job, then maybe you should keep it.  If not, and you can return it without significant financial penalty, then get a FF interchangeable lens M camera as it will be more versatile. Surely thought you have more than enough photographic equipment to get tyou through a few months.

 

However, it may be a different matter if you're looking for an excuse to replace the Q with an M.

 

I say this as someone who doesn't have a Q but a number of Leica M cameras.  Those here who own the Q really like it.

 

Regards,

Mark

 

[tobey bilek]

Leica should schedule repairs so the turn around is decent time.  

 

This kind of "service" gives Leica a bad name.  

[CheshireCat]

Used a loaner M240 for 5 months while my "castrated" camera was getting a new sensor. Never used the video. I'd upgrade to the 262 to get ISO3200, quieter shutter and additional battery life. That would be it. If I wanted a "full" featured camera that included the kitchen sink like the M240 tried to be I'd buy the SL. The M was originally designed to be simple. I'm glad the 262 and SL are available as they're both great options.

 

 

The M240 also has ISO 3200 and the shutter noise is as quiet as the M262, just slightly different.

My M240 didn't come with a kitchen sink, but I will double check later.

Live View allows me to efficiently test the calibration of used M/M39 lenses; use the amazing APO Telyt-R 180/3.4 and many other great non-RF coupled lenses; compose with ultra wides without buying and carrying external ad-hoc finders.

 

I used the video a few times and - even if the quality is poor - it was there when I needed it.

 

I get the "less is more" thing, but I am enjoying my two testicles even if I am told I just need one.

[jonoslack]

 

 

I get the "less is more" thing, but I am enjoying my two testicles even if I am told I just need one.

 

Exactly

[JonPB]

My own approach to M9 sensor repairs is to buy another M9-family camera for the interim. I bought into Leica knowing that service sometimes takes a while, so two bodies were always in the cards, and having a free check-up at Leica actually reduce the second-hand value of these cameras aligns well with my pocketbook.

 

Not much. I recommend to stay away from the M262, also to reinforce the message that we don't want castrated editions.

 

 

I get the "less is more" thing, but I am enjoying my two testicles even if I am told I just need one.

 

 

I don't want to click "thanks" because I disagree -- I think anyone should be free to make, sell, buy, use and love any camera(s) they want -- but I find your metaphor hilarious and oddly apt, so kudos for that. :-)

[Peter H]

.................. If I wanted a "full" featured camera that included the kitchen sink like the M240 tried to be I'd buy the SL. ........

 

 

 

I really feel this is a misunderstanding of the M.

 

I never use video. I've often genuinely forgotten it was there, even on a couple of occasions when taking a quick video might actually have been a good idea, but it's just not part of my instinctive behaviour. But the benefit of having live view available, even though I've used it for no more than maybe 0.5% of my photos, and even then mainly in a preparatory way, is helpful. It makes the camera a touch more capable.

 

But I have used my R macro lens with it, and it works perfectly, far more easily than with the old Visoflex arrangement I used to use. I've also used a Voigtlander 12mm lens with it, which also works very nicely. These little photographic benefits, along with checking calibration and so forth, are helpful features that even if you don't value them at all hardly represent the kitchen sink approach.

 

I think the M240 offers qualities that no other camera, not the SL or anything else can. There are things it cannot do, of course: it is certainly not trying to be a "full-featured" camera in the sense you suggest. But it is the best Leica M digital camera , entirely in the spirit of M cameras, there has so far been, in my opinion.

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[sumolux]

I sent my leica m9 to Leica Bellevue, 3 days ago, and they said they would send it out for repairing. 

 

So I've purchased a leica q, it works perfect but the feeling is still different and the distortion is unacceptable comparing to the M system.

 

 

OP:

You don't like the Q becuase it has unacceptable distortion compared to the M system?

News to me...

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I get the "less is more" thing, but I am enjoying my two testicles even if I am told I just need one.

I rather think that more would be less, after a fashion.