Suteetat Posted April 8, 2016 Share #221 Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the details, Suteetat. I think David's images are very nice, but assessing sharpness at web resolution is not possible. Keep in mind that post-processing is as important as the lens, and that the Zeiss 135/2 APO outresolves a 24 MP sensor wide open. Yes, definitely. That's why I talked more about what I feel to be perceived depth, 3D quality or whatever which is hard to define but generally I think it is a quality that is not necessarily affected by low resolution web effect. You can see it on LCD monitor on the camera, download straight to your cellphone or look at it on a computer monitor at full resolution, if it is there, it is there. I am not aware of any post processing that will create this effect well but I am a very basic post processing kind of guy. I can see this effect quite easily with 50/0.95, 35/1.4 AA, Noct Nikkor 58/1.2 slightly less so in 50/2 apo, Nikon 58/1.4 and Zeiss 35/1.4 zm. 135/2 apo is a great lens and does have a hint of this as well but 90-280 seems to be the first tele lens that really grab my attention this way. May be IQ was a wrong word but definitely a certain perceived effect that I find very pleasing to my eyes. Edited April 8, 2016 by Suteetat 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cpclee Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share #222 Posted April 8, 2016 I will say that the 24-90 also produces images with that kind of quality. At 35mm and comparable apertures, I'm afraid it is as good if not very slightly better than my 35 FLE. Yes, definitely. That's why I talked more about what I feel to be perceived depth, 3D quality or whatever which is hard to define but generally I think it is a quality that is not necessarily affected by low resolution web effect. You can see it on LCD monitor on the camera, download straight to your cellphone or look at it on a computer monitor at full resolution, if it is there, it is there. I am not aware of any post processing that will create this effect well but I am a very basic post processing kind of guy. I can see this effect quite easily with 50/0.95, 35/1.4 AA, Noct Nikkor 58/1.2 slightly less so in 50/2 apo, Nikon 58/1.4 and Zeiss 35/1.4 zm. 135/2 apo is a great lens and does have a hint of this as well but 90-280 seems to be the first tele lens that really grab my attention this way. May be IQ was a wrong word but definitely a certain perceived effect that I find very pleasing to my eyes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suteetat Posted April 8, 2016 Share #223 Posted April 8, 2016 Yes, I should mention 24-90 as well. Just keep forgetting about it, being too big and heavy for my regular use, I tend to use SL with adapters more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted April 21, 2016 Share #224 Posted April 21, 2016 Well a few people have now received the lens, but word from the small sample of retailers that I just polled is that we won't be seeing the next batch of lenses for at least 6 weeks. Whether this is production run hiccoughs or just filling the channel, worldwide, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted April 21, 2016 Share #225 Posted April 21, 2016 There was only one lens delivered to Digidirect in Sydney. Only one. They expect a few more in coming weeks but claim they haven't left Wetzlar yet. Paxtons in Sydney so far got nothing and expecting two lenses before end of April. One of them has my name engraved already I've spoken to Leica Aus rep yesterday and he tells me I should get my lens in a week or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted April 21, 2016 Share #226 Posted April 21, 2016 Lucky you, I know I am on a waiting list - that's it. No idea how long it is or in which place on the list I am ... Do the engravement on the front lens, then it will never be stolen ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted April 23, 2016 Share #227 Posted April 23, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Haven't had a chance to do any wildlife photography yet but I am very pleased with the lens so far. SL 90-280 at 280, 1/250 sec f/8, iso 1250, full frame, hand held, IOS on Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3031678'>More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted April 23, 2016 Share #228 Posted April 23, 2016 Where did you get that cuddly toy - so lifelike ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted April 24, 2016 Share #229 Posted April 24, 2016 Haven't had a chance to do any wildlife photography yet but I am very pleased with the lens so far. SL 90-280 at 280, 1/250 sec f/8, iso 1250, full frame, hand held, IOS on You know if you feed them they turn into this.... 151121Cooper-4.jpg by Gordon Cahill, on Flickr Sorry not with the 90-280 but the lowly R80-200 f4 on the SL Gordon 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugues33 Posted April 24, 2016 Share #230 Posted April 24, 2016 SL with firmware 2.0 and APO-VARIO ELMARIT 90/280mm : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3032230'>More sharing options...
Hugues33 Posted April 24, 2016 Share #231 Posted April 24, 2016 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! A crop in the crop : this cat was at 60m 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! A crop in the crop : this cat was at 60m ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3032232'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 24, 2016 Share #232 Posted April 24, 2016 Are these lenses very slow arriving at dealers? I was number 2 in the queue at a UK dealer but so far they have only had a single example. I had hoped it would arrive before I left to go down to France, as that would avoid expensive courier charges but it didn't Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted April 24, 2016 Share #233 Posted April 24, 2016 Are these lenses very slow arriving at dealers? it seems so, absolutly; there's a very small number of "real life images" we're all looking for... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted April 25, 2016 Share #234 Posted April 25, 2016 Where did you get that cuddly toy - so lifelike ... A Christmas Day mishap. Came home to find the happy parents-to-be enjoying each other. You know if you feed them they turn into this.... 151121Cooper-4.jpg by Gordon Cahill, on Flickr Sorry not with the 90-280 but the lowly R80-200 f4 on the SL Gordon Looks like fun. I see you are missing a sandal. Today I was missing a glove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 25, 2016 Share #235 Posted April 25, 2016 Ffordes have advised me that Leica have confirmed there are production problems with this lens, which is causing a delay in deliveries to dealers. I now wish I had taken my 80-200/f4 R lens to France with me but space was at a premium. However, I would much rather Leica took their time rather than sending yet another duff lens to me, that needs to go straight back to the factory for re-assembly. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted April 25, 2016 Share #236 Posted April 25, 2016 I'd be interested what the problems are. My lens seems to be near perfect at all focal lengths. Maybe I should do a show and tell in Sydney for anyone who wants to see one in the flesh? Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted April 25, 2016 Share #237 Posted April 25, 2016 So happy I still havent sold my Vario-Elmar-R 105-280/4.2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted April 25, 2016 Share #238 Posted April 25, 2016 I'd be interested what the problems are. My lens seems to be near perfect at all focal lengths. Maybe I should do a show and tell in Sydney for anyone who wants to see one in the flesh? Gordon I've been told by Leica Australia, I should be getting mine this week. Fingers crossed. There are only two being shipped to my dealer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugues33 Posted April 25, 2016 Share #239 Posted April 25, 2016 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3033100'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 25, 2016 Share #240 Posted April 25, 2016 Someone who has one is saying his is not parafocal. I wonder if this could be the problem. It certainly should be parafocal, as this is of considerable importance to movie makers if less so using AF on stills. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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