jc_braconi Posted February 13, 2016 Share #21 Posted February 13, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Paraguayan? Si Fabricio il tuo profilo dice che stai in Paraguay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 13, 2016 Posted February 13, 2016 Hi jc_braconi, Take a look here Leitz tropical aluminum lens cases. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
FPangrazi Posted February 13, 2016 Share #22 Posted February 13, 2016 Ops !!! sorry I had not noticed ! I corrected immediately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 13, 2016 Share #23 Posted February 13, 2016 Paraguayan? Scusi, amico Italiano! something wrong happened when I looked for your personal information on the members' list. And this time in your language : molte grazie ancora una volta per l'informazione. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPangrazi Posted February 13, 2016 Share #24 Posted February 13, 2016 The mistake caused him myself! sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPangrazi Posted February 13, 2016 Share #25 Posted February 13, 2016 Already in 1975, Gianni Rogliatti in his first book "Leica fifty years" shows the description in Italian of thousands of Leitz codes. He did the same in the following two books (60 years Leica and Leica 70 years) that were transcribed in English. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=2988694'>More sharing options...
FPangrazi Posted February 13, 2016 Share #26 Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 13, 2016 by FPangrazi 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=2988697'>More sharing options...
FPangrazi Posted February 13, 2016 Share #27 Posted February 13, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=2988699'>More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted February 13, 2016 Share #28 Posted February 13, 2016 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I believe that all 5 Bakelite cases are shown in photo 1. Photo 2 shows the bottom with the lens sizes called out. Photo 3 shows the clear (transparent) lens cases, the 21mm is missing. A litany of code words follows; BCDOO Bakelite case for 28 Hektor, 35 Elmar and 35 Summaron. In 1954 the code was changed to BOORW Clear plastic case for 28 Hektor, 35 Elmar 35 Summaron and the 50 Elmar BKSOO Bakelite case for 50 Elmar and 50 summitar, in 1954 this was changed to BOOSK Clear plastic case for 50 Summitar and 50 Summarit BCOOA Bakelite case for 50 Summarit, there was no new code required for the clear plastic case as BOOSK could be used BDFOO Bakelite case for 90 Elmar, in 1954 this was changed to BOOPY Clear plastic BDOOZ Bakelite for 135 Elmar/Hektor, in 1954 the case changed to clear plastic but the code remained the same BHOOV Clear plastic case for 21 Super Angulon in screw mount There were also code words for the M series clear plastic cases. Regards 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I believe that all 5 Bakelite cases are shown in photo 1. Photo 2 shows the bottom with the lens sizes called out. Photo 3 shows the clear (transparent) lens cases, the 21mm is missing. A litany of code words follows; BCDOO Bakelite case for 28 Hektor, 35 Elmar and 35 Summaron. In 1954 the code was changed to BOORW Clear plastic case for 28 Hektor, 35 Elmar 35 Summaron and the 50 Elmar BKSOO Bakelite case for 50 Elmar and 50 summitar, in 1954 this was changed to BOOSK Clear plastic case for 50 Summitar and 50 Summarit BCOOA Bakelite case for 50 Summarit, there was no new code required for the clear plastic case as BOOSK could be used BDFOO Bakelite case for 90 Elmar, in 1954 this was changed to BOOPY Clear plastic BDOOZ Bakelite for 135 Elmar/Hektor, in 1954 the case changed to clear plastic but the code remained the same BHOOV Clear plastic case for 21 Super Angulon in screw mount There were also code words for the M series clear plastic cases. Regards ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=2988768'>More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted February 13, 2016 Share #29 Posted February 13, 2016 Sorry, some of the transparent cases were available before 1954, but I think the respective code words are correct. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted February 14, 2016 Share #30 Posted February 14, 2016 20160213_1509591.jpg20160213_150910.jpg I am the more not forgivable that I of course had all Gianni's books quite early in my Leica library. Now, aging is probably the explanation... Thanks again, anyhow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted April 12, 2018 Share #31 Posted April 12, 2018 Reading these posts and seeing all those “all chrome” 90mm Elmars just cost me £168 ! I thought I would have a look at e-Bay for “all chrome” Elmars and found a couple of them, made an offer and am now awaiting delivery of one, with caps and black bakalite container. Will post pictures later. Cannot find much about them on this forum, in Laney or google? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 13, 2018 Share #32 Posted April 13, 2018 Reading these posts and seeing all those “all chrome” 90mm Elmars just cost me £168 ! I thought I would have a look at e-Bay for “all chrome” Elmars and found a couple of them, made an offer and am now awaiting delivery of one, with caps and black bakalite container. Will post pictures later. Cannot find much about them on this forum, in Laney or google? The "all chrome" is one of the many variants of the Elmar 90mm classic 4 elements design (there is also the late 3 elements version, rather scarce). It was the first chrome Elmar (pre war items are all black) and, as Alan pointed before, was made in relatively few numbers , but Elmar 90 has been anyway a very common lens : one of the few lenses of which a collector can have the complete set of variants without spending a fortune... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted April 16, 2018 Share #33 Posted April 16, 2018 All chrome Elmar arrived today. Hope to use it in the next day or two. Interesting to compare it to the earlier black versions and the 1950’s chrome. It has the old European aperture scale and goes down to f36 like the black versions, unlike my later chrome one which goes to f32 with international scale. So I guess they changed over to chrome before deciding to change the direction and scaling of the diaphragm for the long term production of the chrome and vulcanite band version? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=3501488'>More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted April 16, 2018 Share #34 Posted April 16, 2018 Looks like the distance scale is in meter right ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted April 17, 2018 Share #35 Posted April 17, 2018 Yes, the focussing scale is in metres. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecole Posted April 17, 2018 Share #36 Posted April 17, 2018 And what about the twin-cassette holders? I just discovered I had two different types in my collection : one in cardboard, the other in aluminium. Was this second also intended for "tropical use"? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=3501779'>More sharing options...
pgk Posted April 25, 2018 Share #37 Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) In case anyone is interested in Bakelite cases then take a look on ebay at item 162891016225 - from a UK camera shop (I haven't bought from them but they look pukka). Edited April 25, 2018 by pgk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 10, 2019 Share #38 Posted January 10, 2019 I mentioned in a recent thread about 9cm Elmars that I had got an example of the lens from 1941 which came with a battered aluminium tropical keeper. When I went looking for details about such keepers I found very little information. This earlier thread more or less confirms that they are indeed very rare items today. I have looked at Leica catalogues, advertising materials and manuals from the 1930s, 40s and 50s and I can find no reference to such items. There is more reference to the aluminium cans for carry FILCA cassettes. I have quite a few of those film cans, but they are much more sturdy than the tropical lens keeper which is exceedingly light and will float on water. There is some material in the Morgan and Lester Manual ( mine is from 1937) and also in the Matheson book about using Leicas in what were then called 'the tropics,' but they contain no reference to the keepers. There is, of course, advice about keeping film and cameras in metal boxes and tins preferably taped up. The Morgan and Lester book contains some period references to African Uniform Boxes and porters which could not appear today. I am happy to own even a battered tropical keeper and it will float (without a lens inside, of course) in a sink full of water, although for how long I don't know as some was getting in through the bends in the lid area. The lens which came with the keeper ( if I can put it that way) has some slight haze and is not as good in that regard as the other two examples in my collection. I suspect that the lens and keeper may have seen service in warm countries during World War 2. The lens is quite a snug fit in the keeper. I have a few rare items in my collection, but this one seems to be the rarest one that I have. Photos are below. Comments are welcomed. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! William 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=3662195'>More sharing options...
sandro Posted January 10, 2019 Share #39 Posted January 10, 2019 Thanks William, for showing this interesting case. Never saw them in reality, they must indeed be rare. Lex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 11, 2019 Share #40 Posted January 11, 2019 I have been in touch with Jim Lager about these tropical keepers and he drew my attention to the piece below from the LHSA Viewfinder magazine which he put together in 2007. I am glad to see that some of these keepers are so well battered as to make my one seem almost elegant. He said that he had never come across a catalogue listing for the tropical lens cases and that he agrees with my view that these are some of the rarest of all Leica items. The LHSA Viewfinder archive is a magnificent resource which is available online to LHSA members, particularly for vintage enthusiasts who can benefit from the wisdom and research by Jim Lager and other experts. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! William 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256058-leitz-tropical-aluminum-lens-cases/?do=findComment&comment=3662916'>More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now