k-hawinkler Posted January 8, 2016 Share #21 Posted January 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) The inevitable controversy this 'contraption' / 'invention' / 'loada rubbish' / 'delight' / 'answer to a prayer' will cause makes vey interesting reading. And the regular naysayers have not chipped in yet! At the end of the day … Nothing improves a product like a bit of competition. There may well be something similar blowing in the wind for the SL ! dunk That would be a welcome development IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 Hi k-hawinkler, Take a look here Leica M to Sony E adapter with autofocus. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Schrödinger's cat Posted January 8, 2016 Share #22 Posted January 8, 2016 ...at three times the price. Good to hear Leica is reducing their markup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 8, 2016 Share #23 Posted January 8, 2016 It'll be interesting to see how the device affects battery life - shifting a whole lens body must take more energy than just the lightweight focusing elements in modern AF lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 8, 2016 Share #24 Posted January 8, 2016 [...] shifting a whole lens body must take more energy than just the lightweight focusing elements in modern AF lenses. More time as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 8, 2016 Share #25 Posted January 8, 2016 While I'm sure there are many people who will be thrilled to own such a thing, and God bless 'em I hope they enjoy it and make wonderful images, in my somewhat grumpy old man view this is a solution in search of a problem I am in 100% agreement. One of the most refreshing aspects of using an M camera is the absence of autofocus, which I have found to be useless in low light and low contrast situations. I can focus an M much more quickly and accurately than any of my Nikon autofocus bodies could ever have hoped to. There must be some politicians involved somewhere. "...a solution in search of a problem." There must be some politicians involved somewhere in the process... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted January 8, 2016 Share #26 Posted January 8, 2016 It seems clear that a similar adapter could make many other MF lenses work in AF mode. How well remains to be seen but obviously AF is in high demand as virtually all recent cameras (other than the M and specialized tech cameras) have AF. Lack of AF is one of the reasons for the departure of the R system and why many photographers replaced their old lenses with AF versions. There is nothing stopping you from still focusing manually when this adapter is in place just as is the case with AF lenses that can be focused manually. Every new Leica camera system introduced in the past 10 years has AF so I think Leica is sold on the concept too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 11, 2016 Share #27 Posted January 11, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) It does not sound too robust mechanically: It is compatible with ALL M-mount lenses (Leica, Voigtlander, Zeiss) (You don’t need to hold the lens if it’s under 300g, but you need to if it’s over 300g) Not surprising, given that it has to move a whole lens instead of a few elements or just the optical cell like native autofocus systems. It appears to me to be better to use the AF lenses that come with the system. The number of Leica lenses over 300 grams is considerable, I am not sure that this is viable this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted January 11, 2016 Share #28 Posted January 11, 2016 Would be fun to see it shift a Noctilux back and forth in very low light with the photographer "holding" it (anyway, I'm not sure I understand how a lens can be held while at the same time being allowed to travel...). Interesting idea, though. Could the same result be achieved by developing a body where the sensor, rather than the lens, moves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 11, 2016 Share #29 Posted January 11, 2016 Would be fun to see it shift a Noctilux back and forth in very low light with the photographer "holding" it (anyway, I'm not sure I understand how a lens can be held while at the same time being allowed to travel...). Interesting idea, though. Could the same result be achieved by developing a body where the sensor, rather than the lens, moves? You hold the lens, and let the adaptor move the camera. What is so difficult about this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou Posted January 11, 2016 Share #30 Posted January 11, 2016 If only this could convince Leica engineers to design an adaptor for R lenses actuating the diaphragm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted January 14, 2016 Share #31 Posted January 14, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKmLNu7HZQ4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2016 Share #32 Posted February 12, 2016 You hold the lens, and let the adaptor move the camera. What is so difficult about this? The camera weighs more than 300 grams as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2016 Share #33 Posted February 12, 2016 The main drawbacks of the system seem to be that it is not suitable for lenses with floating elements (obviously) and that the maximum travel appears to be 4.5 mm, too short a range for longer lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 12, 2016 Share #34 Posted February 12, 2016 If the system works fine with small lenses so much the better for their owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2016 Share #35 Posted February 12, 2016 True - and it might be the best way to use a pre-FLE Summilux 35 asph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted February 12, 2016 Share #36 Posted February 12, 2016 How does it tell when it's in focus? And how does it know that the sensor agrees about focus? this is my 1111th post. As a treat I get to say a rude word. Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 12, 2016 Share #37 Posted February 12, 2016 Well, presumably they reverse-engineered the E-mount AF connections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted February 12, 2016 Share #38 Posted February 12, 2016 Does it focus at the working aperture? Not a recipe for speed and accuracy. Or are you expected to focus first then stop down? Far too slow, a solution looking for a problem I think. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 13, 2016 Share #39 Posted February 13, 2016 It seems to me the biggest problem not mentioned yet is that you have to use this new AF adaptor on a Sony camera. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 13, 2016 Share #40 Posted February 13, 2016 Does it focus at the working aperture? Not a recipe for speed and accuracy. Or are you expected to focus first then stop down? Far too slow, a solution looking for a problem I think. Gerry Obviously it will focus at whatever aperture you have set. Why change anything? Seems quite accurate in demos. FLE issue is also moot, you just ball park the range with the MF focus ring and fire away, getting most or all of the FLE effect. I'm also a MF type of shooter, but I'm not blind. This thing on a Kolari A7II or better yet a A7RII, would be very useful for many shooters in a variety of situations. Such a thing would be a huge selling point on the SL also. You don't hear many complaints about the Q's ability to AF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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