wda Posted January 4, 2016 Share #41 Posted January 4, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Adrian, welcome to the forum and Leica ownership. You have quickly reached several conclusions regarding the XV. But it takes time to get the best from any Leica camera. In the process you adapt fairly quickly to the idiosyncrasies and learn to live with them or alternative 'work-arounds'. As well documented in this and other threads, AF reliability is my biggest bugbear and it is in that area I wish for future improvements. A more modern sensor would further compensate for the slowness of the lens, which is superb as many users testify. Enjoy your XV which at current prices is a very good buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Hi wda, Take a look here XV it's getting old!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jlindstrom Posted January 6, 2016 Share #42 Posted January 6, 2016 My thoughts entirely. So Leica have at least two assured customers for a replacement model Newer sensor, faster electronics (af & general operation) and decent eye level sensor for evf and they'd be set. To be completely honest, I could even survive with current sensor if they'd improve the rest. Image quality has never been an issue, it's only the operational quirks that should be fixed. So basically get the body & guts from Q, stick in aps-c sensor & lens from XV and it'd be fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted January 12, 2016 Share #43 Posted January 12, 2016 And on that note I'm heading for a week long winter holiday up north tomorrow morning. Inspired by this thread I'm taking "the old lady" XV with me and leaving Q & others home [emoji41] Time to take some nice photos with this travel camera par excellance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 12, 2016 Share #44 Posted January 12, 2016 I had my X typ 113 out recently. It remains a lovely performer and an excellent camera with great controls and feel. I've grown a little spoiled by the responsiveness and speed of both the M-P typ 240 and SL typ 601 since I bought the X; the X seems a trifle sluggish now. But it's still a very comfortable camera to carry when all I want is a light camera and a 35mm FoV. I have little need for an upgrade since, if I want more responsiveness, I just grab one of the other cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOM51 Posted January 17, 2016 Share #45 Posted January 17, 2016 I'm surprised by X Vario users doing landscape photography and complaining about the autofocus. The X Vario has a ergonomically good manual focus solution, ideal for landscape and for night photography, why bother with autofocus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 17, 2016 Share #46 Posted January 17, 2016 I'm surprised by X Vario users doing landscape photography and complaining about the autofocus. The X Vario has a ergonomically good manual focus solution, ideal for landscape and for night photography, why bother with autofocus? When it's only modestly dark, I find the manual focus solution of the X Vario far from ergonomically good. The image is very noisy and the refresh rate very low; actually focusing the camera in that situation is an art I haven't mastered yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted January 17, 2016 Share #47 Posted January 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) When it's only modestly dark, I find the manual focus solution of the X Vario far from ergonomically good. The image is very noisy and the refresh rate very low; actually focusing the camera in that situation is an art I haven't mastered yet. I use the XV - and the X1 and X2 for AF night photography in almost total darkness when photographing astronomers observing from fields. . http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255669-leica-x2-and-xv-tool-cameras/?p=2969794 If there is something 'white' or 'silver' (astronomers tripods) for the AF assist beam to reflect from then focus can be nailed. Composition is another matter - but I've learnt to play the % and it's becoming more intuitive … and using the wide X1 and X2 lenses and the wide end of the XV zoom lens - I 'step back' to be sure of including everything in the frame - and then 'crop' as necessary in post processing. dunk dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMorita Posted January 20, 2016 Share #48 Posted January 20, 2016 ... Fact is, at the time it was introduced, the XV was the only APS-C compact with a fixed zoom lens … ... dunk Not true. The Leica X Vario was announced on Jun 11, 2013. source: https://photographylife.com/leica-x-vario-announcement The Canon G1X is a fixed-lens APS-C camera. The Canon G1X was introduced in Feb 2012. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_PowerShot_G If you consider out-of-production models, there's at least one more: Sony DSC-R1, introduced November 2005. source: http://www.dcviews.com/_sony/r1.htm Toshi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guytou Posted January 20, 2016 Share #49 Posted January 20, 2016 Hello TMorita,It is however true!X Vario is the first digital camera with format APS-C (sensor of 23.6 mm X 15.7 mm) and fixed zoom.Canon G1X clearly has a sensor of 1.5 “(18.7 mm X 14 mm) below format APS-C.Sony DSC-R1 has a sensor close to format APS-C (21.5mm X 14.4 mm) but still below this one. It isunfortunately heavy and very cumbersome… Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 24, 2016 Share #50 Posted January 24, 2016 I have always thought of the XV as an anachronism and just part of a development route to something else ....... Nice camera (I have 2) and super quality images for its size. However, having just used it after a spell of using the SL my first reaction was 'how quaint' ....... slow, clunky, awful view in low light ........ oh dear ..... bit like an old girlfriend you meet again after 25 years ...... memories grossly obscure reality and the passage of time ........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share #51 Posted January 24, 2016 I have always thought of the XV as an anachronism and just part of a development route to something else ....... Nice camera (I have 2) and super quality images for its size. However, having just used it after a spell of using the SL my first reaction was 'how quaint' ....... slow, clunky, awful view in low light ........ oh dear ..... bit like an old girlfriend you meet again after 25 years ...... memories grossly obscure reality and the passage of time ........ It is a step backwards after using my M240, but a gentle reminder how far digitals have progressed. Its lightness and IQ offer the ability to do l o n g walks with minimal equipment & weight and return with the high quality images so desired...at the ripe old age 74, I doubt any of my ex G/friends would respond quickly if at all to having any buttons pushed.!!.'()' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2016 Share #52 Posted January 24, 2016 Not true. The Leica X Vario was announced on Jun 11, 2013. source: https://photographylife.com/leica-x-vario-announcement The Canon G1X is a fixed-lens APS-C camera. The Canon G1X was introduced in Feb 2012. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_PowerShot_G If you consider out-of-production models, there's at least one more: Sony DSC-R1, introduced November 2005. source: http://www.dcviews.com/_sony/r1.htm Toshi hi Toshi, G1X sensor 16% >* als MFT* und 20% <* als canon APS* - crop faktor 1,6 - / APS-sensor X Vario - crop faktor 1,5 - = 25% < vs. Canon APS (*wikipedia zu Canon G1X) kind regards k-mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAASCH Posted April 3, 2016 Share #53 Posted April 3, 2016 I noticed the X Vario is no longer for sale at several major online shops. Could this mean that a new model is in the works? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeodial Posted April 8, 2016 Share #54 Posted April 8, 2016 I have been using mine for several weeks now and am really starting to enjoy it. I do use manual focusing, which for landscapes at least has been working out pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astropap Posted April 8, 2016 Share #55 Posted April 8, 2016 I noticed the X Vario is no longer for sale at several major online shops. Could this mean that a new model is in the works? I just got mine from B&H Photo last month. I am very happy with mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted April 9, 2016 Share #56 Posted April 9, 2016 Several dealers in the UK still list the X Vario. Because it is an under-rated camera, new users have been slow to buy into its versatility. It is heartening to read evidence of recent purchases and satisfaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 9, 2016 Share #57 Posted April 9, 2016 Several dealers in the UK still list the X Vario. Because it is an under-rated camera, new users have been slow to buy into its versatility. It is heartening to read evidence of recent purchases and satisfaction. Under-rated partly / mainly because of all the unjustified naysaying at launch - including that which emanated from forum members - some of whom still fail to understand, or do not wish to understand, the XV's design philosophy, its strengths, and who have probably never used the camera for any length of time (or at all ! ) or for serious imaging. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted April 9, 2016 Share #58 Posted April 9, 2016 It has a unusual set of capabilities and limitations. It is superbly balanced. It produces excellent image quality within its zone. For me, the main annoyance is the dimness of the EVF and LCD in bright outdoor light. That is why I'm considering an ancient VIOOH or Nikon Varifocal finder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAASCH Posted April 9, 2016 Share #59 Posted April 9, 2016 I'm on the look-out for an affordable second hand X Vario. The one thing I have my doubts about is the low light capabilities. Hardware (sensor) stabilisation would have been a major plus. The software stabilisation seems completely non-functional on my X2 and I heard that it's no different on the Vario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted April 9, 2016 Share #60 Posted April 9, 2016 Newbie, welcome to the forum. If you can see, you can take pictures with your XV. Using a wide angle gives you a faster starting aperture and a higher ISO extends your scope. IS is limited but remember it only works at 1/30th second or longer, provided you have selected it in the menu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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