rick_dykstra Posted January 6, 2016 Share #181 Posted January 6, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) This isn't the modular system, but the later version of the 280 Apo-Telyt-R with 2X Apo-Extender, so effectively 560mm f/5.6 lens without IS or AF. I'm very pleased so far. Very sharp across the field and even illumination. No vignetting or aberrations that I can appreciate. Canada goose Mallards Wood Duck Hi Tim. Thanks for these. The light looks nice and even - cloudy day, after rain. Good weather for ducks. Can you remember what camera settings you used? Shutter speed and ISO? Tripod and Wimberley or the like I'm assuming. Adapters (Leica pair or Novoflex)? Which lens did you choose from the menu? Thanks. Rick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Likaleica Posted January 6, 2016 Share #182 Posted January 6, 2016 Hi Tim. Thanks for these. The light looks nice and even - cloudy day, after rain. Good weather for ducks. Can you remember what camera settings you used? Shutter speed and ISO? Tripod and Wimberley or the like I'm assuming. Adapters (Leica pair or Novoflex)? Which lens did you choose from the menu? Thanks. Rick. Yes, Rick, it was earlier today, overcast here in Boise with rain this morning. I shot wide open, so f/5.6. I used Aperture priority with the floating ISO, which turned out to be 2000 on the goose and mallards, and 1600 on the Wood Duck. Shutter speed was 1/500 on all 3. I used auto WB and later checked against a grey card, but there wasn't much difference. I used a carbon fiber tripod and a regular ball head that I keep in my car. Although I did not use my Wimberley Head today, I usually do with heavy telephoto lenses. I used the stacked Leica adapters and chose the 280 f/2.8 lens on the menu (only one option). I was going to compare shots without an option, given the troubles reported with the 90AA, but am happy enough with these. Like so many people I have been waiting/hoping for an R solution and really couldn't be more pleased with the current set up. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252711-leica-r-and-m-lenses-on-the-leica-sl-typ-601/?do=findComment&comment=2963730'>More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted January 8, 2016 Share #183 Posted January 8, 2016 Tried stacking the 1.4X Apo-Extender on the 280/2X mentioned above, effective 800mm f/8. Images did not hold up as well. This is ISO 400, 1/500 sec. I found the depth of field was so narrow that I needed to use the focus magnification. To me, these are not acceptably sharp, although camera movement, animal movement and inaccurate focus could also be factors. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252711-leica-r-and-m-lenses-on-the-leica-sl-typ-601/?do=findComment&comment=2965079'>More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 9, 2016 Share #184 Posted January 9, 2016 This is pushing pretty far, but with an 800 mm effective focal length, could you go to ISO 1600 and get 1/2000 to overcome camera and tripod unsteadiness? scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted January 9, 2016 Share #185 Posted January 9, 2016 This is pushing pretty far, but with an 800 mm effective focal length, could you go to ISO 1600 and get 1/2000 to overcome camera and tripod unsteadiness? scott Next project! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted January 9, 2016 Share #186 Posted January 9, 2016 1/250th is about where I shoot with my 800, mounted on an Arca B2 or Wimberley, often with a Manfrotto Long Lens Support as well, which helps significantly. I'm thinking that the quiet and vibration 'free' shutter mechanism of the SL would be like shooting with the mirror locked up with an R8/9, so that's a big help. It'd be better of course, because the subject is still visible! And, no more situations where the world goes black if I forget to flip the mirror pre-release switch back to normal. I'm inclined to agree with you Tim - the SL is not a bad R solution. I wish I could find more info and examples of its video performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 9, 2016 Share #187 Posted January 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Next project: for me it's working with very wide and kinda wide angles, where I would have been using an optical finder or squinting into the EVF2 on my M240. So here are pixel fillers from this morning with the Elmarit-R 15 (shooting at f/5.6, but the EXIF is confused -- it also shows last night's 90/2.0 instead of the correct lens ID). L1010150 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr L1010154 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr Focus on the second one was about four graves away from me. I also tested the M SuperElmar 18/3.8 and it is sharp to the corners, depth of field issues permitting. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 9, 2016 Share #188 Posted January 9, 2016 I also tested the M SuperElmar 18/3.8 and it is sharp to the corners, depth of field issues permitting. scott I was very pleasantly surprised to find the SEM 18mm fractionally sharper in the corners on my SL than it was on my M240, taking as near I could, an identical photo. There was also slightly less purple fringing on the SL on dark branches against the sky. I thought that this would be the worst lens on my SL but actually, the 25mm Zeiss ZM 25 (coded as a 24mm Elmarit) is the worst and even then, by no means bad at all. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 9, 2016 Share #189 Posted January 9, 2016 For a change, my 'Lux 35 v2 returned from DAG the other day so today I'm going on my walk carrying the M-P with 35 and 75 lenses. I've used the SL so exclusively for the past two months, it will be interesting to see how the M-P has changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted January 9, 2016 Share #190 Posted January 9, 2016 Improved technique. 280 + 2x apo + 1.4x apo. ISO 1600, 1/500 sec, f/16 (effective), heavier tripod, less coffee. Files are acceptably sharp. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252711-leica-r-and-m-lenses-on-the-leica-sl-typ-601/?do=findComment&comment=2965550'>More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 9, 2016 Share #191 Posted January 9, 2016 Using stacked tele-extenders is generally a bad thing, with inevitable degradation of the primary lens performance, but it looks like this setup is at least acceptably sharp and nets a nice bit of extra reach for the occasional moment. Shooting with the Telyt-R 250 v1 and 2x Extender R on my light tripod convinced me that that tripod was insufficiently strong and the head not really designed for this use. I went to my stronger Feisol legs and bought a sturdier head for it .. Now my tests show that I have a tripod and head that can properly keep vibration under control for the 500mm lens assembly. And even at 500mm, the focus zone is so shallow that focusing correctly and using the right aperture is a challenge! 800mm is a lot more work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 9, 2016 Share #192 Posted January 9, 2016 For a change, my 'Lux 35 v2 returned from DAG the other day so today I'm going on my walk carrying the M-P with 35 and 75 lenses. I've used the SL so exclusively for the past two months, it will be interesting to see how the M-P has changed. I wrote up my impressions with this morning's shoot in another thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255419-m-or-sl/?p=2965656 If posed with the "you can only have one camera, which would you keep", the SL would be my answer. But I don't have that problem, and I'm keeping both. They are very different, and both very appealing. R lenses on the SL, M lenses on the M-P; Life is Good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted January 9, 2016 Share #193 Posted January 9, 2016 SL + 280 Apo-Telyt-R handheld, 1/500 sec, f/4, ISO 160. LR and SE2 Highland Bull Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252711-leica-r-and-m-lenses-on-the-leica-sl-typ-601/?do=findComment&comment=2965667'>More sharing options...
Malvolio Posted January 10, 2016 Share #194 Posted January 10, 2016 I'd love to see some examples with the 28 Cron - has anyone done any extensive testing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 10, 2016 Share #195 Posted January 10, 2016 I'd love to see some examples with the 28 Cron - has anyone done any extensive testing? If you mean with the ASPH 28 Summicron, I took a couple just to check it was OK and it seemed just fine. They were just test shots, so I didn't keep them. I won't be going out today as it is black skies again and like the last two months, raining hard. People are building arks in their back gardens in the UK. I can see from my bedroom window, that again one of our fields is about 30% flooded and the stream beside it is running over the top of the bridge. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 22, 2016 Share #196 Posted January 22, 2016 http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/01/21/old-and-new-leica-m-vs-leica-r-lens-comparison-on-the-sl-by-jean-marc-bottazzi/ A comparison of the APO 50mm with several R lenses: -the 80mm summilux R f1.4 -the apo macro emarit 100mm f2.8-the old vario elmarit 35-70mm f3.5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 22, 2016 Share #197 Posted January 22, 2016 SL + 280 Apo-Telyt-R handheld, 1/500 sec, f/4, ISO 160. LR and SE2 Highland Bull Thanks for the 280 f4 APO shots! Which lens profile did you use? 280 f2.8? (the 280 f4 APO results in a halo and should not be used). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 22, 2016 Share #198 Posted January 22, 2016 Thanks for the 280 f4 APO shots! Which lens profile did you use? 280 f2.8? (the 280 f4 APO results in a halo and should not be used). Not be used on SL? Could you please point to an example? TIA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 22, 2016 Share #199 Posted January 22, 2016 Not be used on SL? Could you please point to an example? TIA. scott kirkpatrick determined that the 280 f4 APO lens profile has a defect in it and should not be used at present. Nothing wrong with using the APO 280 f4 lens. I'd use one of the 250 f4 lens profiles, since there is no non-APO 280mm profile. Examples were shown in some earlier posts in this or another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted January 22, 2016 Share #200 Posted January 22, 2016 scott kirkpatrick determined that the 280 f4 APO lens profile has a defect in it and should not be used at present. Nothing wrong with using the APO 280 f4 lens. I'd use one of the 250 f4 lens profiles, since there is no non-APO 280mm profile. Examples were shown in some earlier posts in this or another thread. Thanks Godfrey. The lens works just fine on my A7r2 except for specular point lights, doesn't seem to need a Leica profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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