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Ugly and pretty are relative..one you found ugly might be pretty to someone else..probably you haven't met bag maker like Wotancraft, Holdfast, Onabag, Oberwerth etc etc, all make beautiful bag. Above all ugliness for camera bag, I will always chose functionality and versatility first.

 

Not to single out one brand, as each may have its own issues, but there are threads here on certain 'beautiful' ONA bags falling apart, with poor customer service response.  In addition to functionality and versatility, I'd add reliability and service.  

 

And, for me, weather protection and comfort (including size and weight) are key aspects of functionality.....even if that means less attractive materials.  

 

As with everything else on the forum, tastes and preferences vary.  I tend to stick with basic black, even though lighter colors may reflect heat better.  

 

The good news is that there are enough options and biases to keep bag threads among the most frequent on the forum.

 

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But it often surprises me that photographers who you'd imagine ought to have heightened visual awareness and sensitivity often seem to care little about what things look like. 

 

 

As I say to folks who walk up and say things like, "Hey, that's a fine looking camera there!" ...

"Oh, yeah. I like to spend more time looking through it than looking at it, however."

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As I say to folks who walk up and say things like, "Hey, that's a fine looking camera there!" ...

"Oh, yeah. I like to spend more time looking through it than looking at it, however."

True.

 

My general point is that visual awareness and sensitivity is the sort of condition that you can't just switch on when you look through a viewfinder, and switch off again for going about your other business. Because like it or not its part of you and it affects almost everything you do. And your photos will reflect all that v

 

When I apply this to the choice of camera bags I'm being ridiculously subjective of course, but I believe there's a truth in there!

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...My general point is that visual awareness and sensitivity is the sort of condition that you can't just switch on when you look through a viewfinder, and switch off again for going about your other business. ...

I think so, too. However, not all place aesthetics above all other considerations. Some very impressive work can utterly fail at aesthetics. So can bags.

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I think so, too. However, not all place aesthetics above all other considerations. Some very impressive work can utterly fail at aesthetics. So can bags.

Don't you think there's a distinction between a purely functional object in which the beauty is in the functionality, and the deliberately styled monstrosities that many camera-bag makers turn out.

 

I suspect there's a heavy leather fetish needing to be fed, that finds an outlet in equestrian camera cases, coquettish half cases and military-surplus bags!

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The problem with leather is that, if it is thin enough to be light, it is quite floppy and leads to a shapeless bag, where everything drops to the bottom. If it is thick enough to retain its shape well it is heavy. I have a Jill-E suede roller camera bag, that holds everything I could want and is stiff enough to be protective and retain its shape but it weighs a ton. With say the SL, 24-90, 90-280, Nocti and 18SEM plus SF58 and various, batteries, charger, filters and filter holders, I would need to employ my own personal Bulgarian weightlifter on steroids, to carry it around for me. I like leather for the trim, straps and handles, because of its durability but for the main bag material I prefer natural or synthetic canvas/gaberdine

 

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 As has been said above, expensive often does not always mean practical or even reliable and there are some bags mentioned here (and straps shown elsewhere) that I personally would be too embarrassed to carry around, but each to their own.  If I really do have to use a camera bag (which I usually try to avoid) I'm happy with my selection of beat-up and smelly old CCS stuff. 

 

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Don't you think there's a distinction between a purely functional object in which the beauty is in the functionality, and the deliberately styled monstrosities that many camera-bag makers turn out.

I suspect there's a heavy leather fetish needing to be fed, that finds an outlet in equestrian camera cases, coquettish half cases and military-surplus bags!

I don't like any of the "deliberately styled monstrosities" so don't care about them. I also have no use for a 'heavy leather' fetish bag.

 

I pick my bags based upon their usability, weight, construction quality, and capacity for the intended equipment. I like easy access, secure closure, a decent assortment of pockets and organizing structure, good quality hardware, comfortable strap, and durability. The resulting picks always look good to my eye ... So style following function works.

 

Buying a bag because it "looks good" is a complete waste of money.

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Buying a bag because it "looks good" is a complete waste of money.

 

Although I generally agree with your statement and have my house covered in various bags I must state that I would not buy an ugly bag. I will not buy the bag for its looks either. So for me its a combination of usability and the bag looking acceptable.

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I like very much my new Filson Magnum McCurry Sportsman bag (plus Billingham SP50 Shoulder pad).

 

Not made anymore but still available on the Internet.

 

 

 

 

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I like very much my new Filson Magnum McCurry Sportsman bag (plus Billingham SP50 Shoulder pad).

 

Not made anymore but still available on the Internet.

 

 

Although they have some flaws, the Filson bags were very nice. Not sure why they launched a line of bags and then abandoned them a year later...I have the Filson Magnum Field Camera Bag and it's my bag of choice for the SL and 24-90 with a few M lenses, or for a couple of M cameras and as many as 6-7 lenses. If they had made a few refinements to the bag, like better water repellancy, they could have been long term players. Lifetime warranty as well.

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The Belstaff Colonial Messenger bag is back.

 

Nicer than the previous version (556) which was a bit to much distressed IMO.

 

http://www.belstaff.eu/new-in/colonial-messenger-shoulder-bag-khaki/75610370C61N0118-Khaki.html#gclid=CJ2J3YqzlM8CFcoW0wod0w8PqQ&start=1

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The new Belstaff bag should work well with :

 

the Wotancraft Waterproof Camera Insert L

 

https://www.wotancraft.com/product/waterproof-shock-resistant-insert-large

 

or the Wotancraft Quick-Draw Camera Insert L 

 

https://www.wotancraft.com/product/quick-draw-camera-insert-l

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Ok I am trying something new I have a Case Logic top load DSLR case. In it the SL fits with any of the lenses I have 21mm (sideways) up to the 135mm lens. Also in the top load film, batteries, blower and cloth. In my Croots cartridge case the SF40 flash and two further M lenses.

 

Umbrella in jacket pocket, no rucksack needed. An experiment to see if I can ween myself off rucksacks and anything larger than what I describe above.

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Hi Bag Lovers,

I have only R  Lenses and M Lenses.

Not yet, may be I might  never buy SL Lenses, as I am still using beside the SLmy good old R8-DMR.

This good old Leica leather bag you might find on the second Hand market.

I like it, because there are rigid compartement.

With the Equipment mentioned the weight is 6.1 kg

regard Peter from Switzerland

 

 

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Lenses with Camera Leica SL

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Lenses only

 

 

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