lm_user Posted October 27, 2015 Share #21 Â Posted October 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Fact is, you can mount R lenses NOW, stacking a pair of adapters... maybe they wait so much to understand (from sales data and forums' opinions... ) if it is worth to make it "Smart" (to say, with auto diaph actuation (which adds cost) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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veraikon Posted October 27, 2015 Share #22 Â Posted October 27, 2015 or you buy a Novoflex R to T adapter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 28, 2015 Share #23 Â Posted October 28, 2015 To be honest, I don't understand why so many ppl insist on using the Automatic Aperture adapters. I use my R lenses on my A7s, mostly for video , and I don't feel challenged using the R-lenses with the EVF, it allows gain and let focus the lens comfortable in regular shooting situations stopped down. For my use stacked adapters will be ok. Hi There I quite agree . . .but I think those who are used to using Stop Down Metering on a dSLR will feel differently . . . until they try it. Personally I prefer to shoot at the final aperture with an EVF - the gain works well and focusing is simple. The stacked adapters also work pretty well, with the 6 bit code from the M to R adapter bringing up the R list on the lens profiles on the SL. Â The assessed aperture is also really good - better than it is with the M. Â Difficult to convey this though - it would be nice if the L to R adapter reads the ROM chips, but I'm not sure that the ASD (automatic stop down) is really necessary. Â all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted October 28, 2015 Share #24 Â Posted October 28, 2015 Hi There I quite agree . . .but I think those who are used to using Stop Down Metering on a dSLR will feel differently . . . until they try it. Personally I prefer to shoot at the final aperture with an EVF - the gain works well and focusing is simple. The stacked adapters also work pretty well, with the 6 bit code from the M to R adapter bringing up the R list on the lens profiles on the SL. Â The assessed aperture is also really good - better than it is with the M. Â Difficult to convey this though - it would be nice if the L to R adapter reads the ROM chips, but I'm not sure that the ASD (automatic stop down) is really necessary. Â all the best I have to say that, not only is it not necessary, it is also not recommended, due to focus shift issues that most lenses suffer from to various degrees. An EVF does not require full aperture to focus like an OVF. An OVF will go completely dark, but the EVF shows the actual exposure and allows to work within the DOF of the chosen aperture. I believe a good implementation of image magnification is much more important because this is what you need to quickly and accurately focus a stopped down ultra wide angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted October 28, 2015 Share #25 Â Posted October 28, 2015 I have to say that, not only is it not necessary, it is also not recommended, due to focus shift issues that most lenses suffer from to various degrees. An EVF does not require full aperture to focus like an OVF. An OVF will go completely dark, but the EVF shows the actual exposure and allows to work within the DOF of the chosen aperture. I believe a good implementation of image magnification is much more important because this is what you need to quickly and accurately focus a stopped down ultra wide angle.+1And Macro shooting with the EVF became so easy, unbelievable! Before EVFs I had to shoot tethered to see what I am really shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted October 28, 2015 Share #26 Â Posted October 28, 2015 Wouldn't it be possible to add an "second" aperture in the adapter that be controlled by the SL? Then you only put the lens to maximum aperture. The ROM contact should be the easiest thing to transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 28, 2015 Share #27 Â Posted October 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wouldn't it be possible to add an "second" aperture in the adapter that be controlled by the SL? An aperture behind the lens would cause vignetting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewolfs Posted October 28, 2015 Share #28  Posted October 28, 2015 Novoflex already offers an R -> T adapter. Auto Diaphram seems pointless in most cases as the entire point of the EVF is WYSIWYG plus as others have mentioned you don't have to worry about focus shift issues.  Can a profile be manually selected with the SL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted October 29, 2015 Share #29 Â Posted October 29, 2015 Novoflex already offers an R -> T adapter. Auto Diaphram seems pointless in most cases as the entire point of the EVF is WYSIWYG plus as others have mentioned you don't have to worry about focus shift issues. Â Can a profile be manually selected with the SL? Â There are many contacts on the L to T adapter. They will transmit the reading of the 6 bits information from the coded R to M adapter (made by Leica and some from Novoflex). Â On the M you will need the 6 bits coding of the R to M adapter to make the R lenses list to show. Â Is it the same on the SL, I don't know, but I guess so. Â It seems reasonable to think the future Leica R to T adapter will have the same electronic contacts on the back. Â Will they only transmit the equivalent of the 6 bits information to the SL to make the R list show, or will they do more than that ? Â If it is more than that, it can only come from the ROMs. Â Anyway we should know in a year from now. Â Which is not unusual. The very simple and fully mechanical 6 bits R to M adapter took month to show up. In the mean time, I was using the very old Leica adapter #22228. Â This time at least we can stack two proper Leica adapters and make it work like on the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted December 17, 2015 Share #30  Posted December 17, 2015 I would also like the R-L adapter to include a rubber gasket on both sides of the adapter.  It would also be nice to have that on a new version of the M-L (M-T) adapter.  And for the look of it, it would be nice to see all the white mentions (Leica R-Adapter L) engraved under the adapters instead of on the top of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 17, 2015 Share #31 Â Posted December 17, 2015 I also will not consider purchasing the SL until this adapter has been announced and tested. Â Â Â seems like a silly reason not to buy a camera, especially since you can use R lenses now. I have been shooting with R lenses since the camera arrived...they work perfectly on the SL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 17, 2015 Share #32  Posted December 17, 2015 @digitalfx  Does the SL have profiles for the C lenses, and if so how are they called up and selected?  How well do they work?  Do they appear to be be aware of aperture (making a stronger correction when the lens is wide open)?  scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted December 18, 2015 Share #33 Â Posted December 18, 2015 The cynic (and the capitalist) in me says that they're holding the R adapter in order to raise sales of native lenses. Â All I know is that there are some real R lens bargains that might not be around forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 18, 2015 Share #34  Posted December 18, 2015 @digitalfx  Does the SL have profiles for the C lenses, and if so how are they called up and selected?  How well do they work?  Do they appear to be be aware of aperture (making a stronger correction when the lens is wide open)?  scott  Yes, corrections are available and the camera recognizes the R lenses. You still have to select the correct one. As far as corrections go, I don't have any complaints. The images with R lenses look outstanding.  EDIT: HaHa..I didn't read close enough, you asked about C lenses. I doubt it, the PL adapter has no coding...so the camera will have no idea what mount is attached. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252022-adapter-for-leica-r-will-be-on-sale-from-end-2016/?do=findComment&comment=2951674'>More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 18, 2015 Share #35 Â Posted December 18, 2015 The cynic (and the capitalist) in me says that they're holding the R adapter in order to raise sales of native lenses. Â All I know is that there are some real R lens bargains that might not be around forever. Â well, since most SL owners already own every single SL lens thats produced...all one of them- I highly doubt this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted December 19, 2015 Share #36  Posted December 19, 2015 seems like a silly reason not to buy a camera, especially since you can use R lenses now. I have been shooting with R lenses since the camera arrived...they work perfectly on the SL  I understand that the camera can be used with R lenses now, but can you point me to anyone who has posted images and movie footage taken with the APO-Telyt-R Module lens set? I'm keen to see/test how the camera works with these lenses, out to 800mm, even 1600mm with the 2X; a principal application for me. The key question is, how effectively can these lenses be focussed at working aperture, with fast moving subjects? Are the profiles for the Module lenses working well? Who knows?  The picture you took of the R lens profile list - could you please advance to the next page(s) and post a pic of what you see for the longer teles, including the Modular lenses? Thanks. Rick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 19, 2015 Share #37 Â Posted December 19, 2015 The list ought to be posted somewhere, but here are the longer teles supported: Â 800 f/6.3 11921 apo 800 f/5.6 11849 apo 560 f/5.6 11958 apo 560 f/4 11848 500 f/8 11243 apo 400 f/4 11857 apo 400 f/2.8 11847 350 f/4.8 11915 Â after that comes the 280 and 180 set which are more or less conventional mount R lenses. Â I haven't seen any actual shots or footage from these. Â The most i can offer is that with an APO 90 f/2 on the SL, I ran through this part of the list of primes and did not see the rings of excess lightening that make certain 180 and 280 APO profiles presently unusable. Â If you can find the Telyt-Modul lenses up in this end of the list, the SL will work with them. Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 20, 2015 Share #38  Posted December 20, 2015  I understand that the camera can be used with R lenses now, but can you point me to anyone who has posted images and movie footage taken with the APO-Telyt-R Module lens set? I'm keen to see/test how the camera works with these lenses, out to 800mm, even 1600mm with the 2X; a principal application for me. The key question is, how effectively can these lenses be focussed at working aperture, with fast moving subjects? Are the profiles for the Module lenses working well? Who knows?  The picture you took of the R lens profile list - could you please advance to the next page(s) and post a pic of what you see for the longer teles, including the Modular lenses? Thanks. Rick.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252022-adapter-for-leica-r-will-be-on-sale-from-end-2016/?do=findComment&comment=2952625'>More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 20, 2015 Share #39  Posted December 20, 2015 last page Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252022-adapter-for-leica-r-will-be-on-sale-from-end-2016/?do=findComment&comment=2952626'>More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 22, 2015 Share #40 Â Posted December 22, 2015 Here's a question for one of the DMR practitioners. Â What information was an R ROM-equipped lens able to transfer to the DMR? Â Aperture in use? Â Focal length (on a zoom lens)? We should reasonably expect to see this transferred in an Leica R to SL adapter, and if that information did not transfer to the DMR, it seems unlikely that it will be located and expressed for the SL. Â Â scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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