jrovner Posted October 5, 2015 Share #1 Posted October 5, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) OK, here's a very strange one. I always shoot with my M 240 only in raw format. Today I realized that all the shots I've taken since July have been jpg. (That would explain a lot about the poorer quality I've been seeing, and my inability to lift clean detail out of shadows in post processing.) I am highly confident I never reset the camera to shoot jpg. Any idea how this might have happened on its own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 5, 2015 Posted October 5, 2015 Hi jrovner, Take a look here M mysteriously switched from raw to jpg format. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Manoleica Posted October 5, 2015 Share #2 Posted October 5, 2015 Did you leave it without a battery for a period of time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrovner Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted October 5, 2015 I'm not sure, but possibly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted October 5, 2015 Share #4 Posted October 5, 2015 Without power the camera may well have reverted to some default settings.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted October 5, 2015 Share #5 Posted October 5, 2015 Also, when formatting a card, it's possible to accidentally cursor to the menu item above the format item. In which case you will return the camera to its default state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted October 5, 2015 Share #6 Posted October 5, 2015 The internal battery as usual. If it's not fully charged, it will not hold the settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrovner Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted October 5, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks, everyone. Another important and painful lesson learned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 5, 2015 Share #8 Posted October 5, 2015 Installing the latest firmware also resets the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 5, 2015 Share #9 Posted October 5, 2015 Even if you have no use for user profiles (plural) you might benefit from having one user profile. When packing to go out for the day, turn on the camera, click info to see battery and sd card usage, click set to make sure your profile is selected, make any adjustments needed from your standard profile and off you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 5, 2015 Share #10 Posted October 5, 2015 +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted October 5, 2015 Share #11 Posted October 5, 2015 OK, here's a very strange one. I always shoot with my M 240 only in raw format. Today I realized that all the shots I've taken since July have been jpg. (That would explain a lot about the poorer quality I've been seeing, and my inability to lift clean detail out of shadows in post processing.) Definitely very strange...that someone who professes PP skill and is dissatisfied with the "poorer quality" of the M's jpegs would not notice for 3 months that all his images have .jpg file extensions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 5, 2015 Share #12 Posted October 5, 2015 I disagree. I was surprised to see the file name so prominently displayed when I needed it and so searched the screen for it. I blame web advertising for making us blank out information on busy screens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrovner Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted October 6, 2015 Definitely very strange...that someone who professes PP skill and is dissatisfied with the "poorer quality" of the M's jpegs would not notice for 3 months that all his images have .jpg file extensions Trust me, I've had the same thought! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrödinger's cat Posted October 6, 2015 Share #14 Posted October 6, 2015 My own post processing routine would have prohibited this going unnoticed. I only shoot raw and they open by default in ACR. If I open a jpeg it opens by default in Photoshop. I would be interested in knowing what post processing routine might allow such a thing to happen, in order to possibly avoid it myself in future. I am unfamiliar with the default behaviors in Lightroom, Capture One, and others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 6, 2015 Share #15 Posted October 6, 2015 The routine goes like this: plug in the sd card, Lightroom sucks in all the raw and/or JPEG files then ejects the card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted October 7, 2015 Share #16 Posted October 7, 2015 Today I realized that all the shots I've taken since July have been jpg. (That would explain a lot about the poorer quality I've been seeing, and my inability to lift clean detail out of shadows in post processing.) I don't know how you get to the post processing stage without noticing you haven't done any work on the .dng image in ACR? I have made the mistake myself, set the camera to JPEG, probably to try and help answer a question on LUF (!!), and forgot to set it back to .dng, but opening the subsequent shots in Photoshop without the preliminary steps of ACR immediately rings the alarm bell they are JPEG's! I agree entirely with what Exodies says, you can go blind to what your LCD or menu is saying to you, especially if you know you never use JPEG, and similar mistakes can happen with ISO, exposure compensation etc. So follow the advice of having a custom profile saved for your default setting and each time you've uploaded a set of pictures go through the same routine, charge your battery, format the SD card, and reset your profile, or any variation that works for you. A custom profile is also useful during a long day out if you have been making many changes and quickly want to get back to your standard settings. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted October 7, 2015 Share #17 Posted October 7, 2015 The file sizes should ring the first alarm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrovner Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted October 7, 2015 I don't know how you get to the post processing stage without noticing you haven't done any work on the .dng image in ACR? I have made the mistake myself, set the camera to JPEG, probably to try and help answer a question on LUF (!!), and forgot to set it back to .dng, but opening the subsequent shots in Photoshop without the preliminary steps of ACR immediately rings the alarm bell they are JPEG's! I agree entirely with what Exodies says, you can go blind to what your LCD or menu is saying to you, especially if you know you never use JPEG, and similar mistakes can happen with ISO, exposure compensation etc. So follow the advice of having a custom profile saved for your default setting and each time you've uploaded a set of pictures go through the same routine, charge your battery, format the SD card, and reset your profile, or any variation that works for you. A custom profile is also useful during a long day out if you have been making many changes and quickly want to get back to your standard settings. Steve I work in Lightroom only, so everything appeared normal -- I inserted the SD card into my computer, saw the images on the import screen, and clicked Import to bring them into Lightroom. Everything looked as it normally does when that process incorporated a raw conversion. Of course, it's easy to see now that there were plenty of jpg notifications available to me. But the power of expectation is very strong. My long term hobby, other than photography, is sleight of hand magic, which relies entirely upon the spectator's tendency to see what he expects to see, as long as the magician's sneaky moves are disguised in a natural way. In this case, Leica was the magician, and I was fooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrödinger's cat Posted October 7, 2015 Share #19 Posted October 7, 2015 The routine goes like this: plug in the sd card, Lightroom sucks in all the raw and/or JPEG files then ejects the card. Well, with no manual post processing of the raw image involved I suppose that goes a long way to explaining not noticing the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 7, 2015 Share #20 Posted October 7, 2015 No, that's not it at all. The prelude which I described explains why the file type and data size are not seen. With Lightroom you deal with images not files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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