erlingmm Posted September 9, 2015 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2015/09/leica-s-typ-007-review/ http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2015/09/my-photographic-adventure-through-iceland-with-the-leica-s-typ007/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Hi erlingmm, Take a look here David Farkas reviews of the 007 are out. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ravinj Posted September 9, 2015 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2015 Thanks for posting. Very nice report, It is hard to take bad photos in Iceland with any camera! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted September 10, 2015 Share #3 Posted September 10, 2015 I want to go to Iceland. The wife said she would not sleep in the back of any SUV. Oh well plan B......! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 10, 2015 Share #4 Posted September 10, 2015 Go alone... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted September 10, 2015 Share #5 Posted September 10, 2015 I really enjoyed Davids in depth trip report. Some wonderful photographs and the S 007 looks like it is a great platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted September 10, 2015 Share #6 Posted September 10, 2015 It sure is a great platform. The images look a little too saturated for my taste, but nothing that can't be fixed in post.(IMO the embedded profile look better than Adobe's at the moment, though the camera is not officially supported yet) Once again, Mr. Farkas has provided us with great info, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVB Posted September 10, 2015 Share #7 Posted September 10, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It sure is a great platform. The images look a little too saturated for my taste, but nothing that can't be fixed in post.(IMO the embedded profile look better than Adobe's at the moment, though the camera is not officially supported yet) Once again, Mr. Farkas has provided us with great info, thanks! Peter, which browser do you use??Just out of curiosity try viewing them from both safari and Firefox and see if there is a difference ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 10, 2015 Share #8 Posted September 10, 2015 outstanding review. Game changing camera. This is really enough for me to consider switching from Phase to the S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted September 10, 2015 Share #9 Posted September 10, 2015 It sure is a great platform. The images look a little too saturated for my taste, but nothing that can't be fixed in post.(IMO the embedded profile look better than Adobe's at the moment, though the camera is not officially supported yet) Once again, Mr. Farkas has provided us with great info, thanks! Thanks for the feedback. I went back through some of the images in LR and played around with the camera profile. In certain cases, the Embedded profile which I used, causes the image to pick up extra saturation in certain colors. In these cases, the Adobe Standard, with some WB tweaking does look more natural. For others, the Embedded profile looks better. When I first started processing the files (when I was out shooting), Adobe Standard wasn't even an option. I'm considering going back through to correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted September 10, 2015 Share #10 Posted September 10, 2015 David, I read both the short and long articles. Did you only take the S007 or did you take some sort of backup. I might have missed this but do not recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted September 10, 2015 Share #11 Posted September 10, 2015 David, Thank you for the samples! Great work. A friend and portrait photographer who is a long time S user showed me that almost every default skin rendering in modern digital cameras is too saturated. He always applies increased contrast and lower saturation to skin and it looks much more natural. I'm less tempted to try this in landscapes, but it's a real eye-opener for portraits. I've always been impressed by the naturalness of Leica color rendition, though the Q leans in the over-saturated direction, again, by default only. Best, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted September 10, 2015 Share #12 Posted September 10, 2015 David, I read both the short and long articles. Did you only take the S007 or did you take some sort of backup. I might have missed this but do not recall. Bill, I only used the S007. I didn't mention it, but I did bring a backup S006, just in case of catastrophic failure. Luckily, the S007 performed without a hitch, even given the harsh conditions, so the S006 never came out of its bubble wrap cocoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted September 10, 2015 Share #13 Posted September 10, 2015 David, thank you for the detailed and interesting report. You write the color is better than that of the S 006, but you do not show any comparisons. Is this a general feeling and could you talk a little more about color. I find the color of the S 006 a lot better than that of the M 240 and I am a little afraid the S 007 might look a little more Canikon. Best, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted September 10, 2015 Share #14 Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks for the feedback. I went back through some of the images in LR and played around with the camera profile. In certain cases, the Embedded profile which I used, causes the image to pick up extra saturation in certain colors. In these cases, the Adobe Standard, with some WB tweaking does look more natural. For others, the Embedded profile looks better. When I first started processing the files (when I was out shooting), Adobe Standard wasn't even an option. I'm considering going back through to correct. Hi David, I watched the photos both in Safari and Firefox (which look the same to my eye) on my non calibrated, but very well known (10 hrs per day) MBP Retina. I think they’re great shots. Haven’t come to reading it all yet, but very promising indeed. Like I said, the photos look a bit over-saturated, especially in the greens and yellows and in some photos the reds and the blues too, but then again I’ve never been to Iceland, so I don't know what it looked like when you took these. Anyway, great location, well chosen! The colors remind me a bit of the first M240 examples I’ve seen on the net, but that’s understandable given the same sensor family. When I try the Embedded Profile on the DPR-samples, they look much more saturated than the Adobe Profile. I feel quite sure the photos can be made to look any which way the photographer likes, very rich files. The yellow in the picture with the bag seems a bit too hot, but when I click on the larger version it gets better (darker) though still a tad over-exposed. Interesting how the clouds get a bit softer than one would expect, how’d you do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVB Posted September 10, 2015 Share #15 Posted September 10, 2015 Hi David, I watched the photos both in Safari and Firefox (which look the same to my eye) on my non calibrated, but very well known (10 hrs per day) MBP Retina. I think they’re great shots. Haven’t come to reading it all yet, but very promising indeed. Like I said, the photos look a bit over-saturated, especially in the greens and yellows and in some photos the reds and the blues too, but then again I’ve never been to Iceland, so I don't know what it looked like when you took these. Anyway, great location, well chosen! The colors remind me a bit of the first M240 examples I’ve seen on the net, but that’s understandable given the same sensor family. When I try the Embedded Profile on the DPR-samples, they look much more saturated than the Adobe Profile. I feel quite sure the photos can be made to look any which way the photographer likes, very rich files. The yellow in the picture with the bag seems a bit too hot, but when I click on the larger version it gets better (darker) though still a tad over-exposed. Interesting how the clouds get a bit softer than one would expect, how’d you do that? Peter ,the MBP Retina has about 70% of adobe RGB vs 98% on a profiled Eizo or NEC,I love the MBP but the limitations of the screen are real and images do tend to look contrasty and saturated. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted September 10, 2015 Share #16 Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks Rob, I've been forgetting that lately. My Eizo in my studio hardly gets any use these days. It hangs on an old MacPro that I only use for archiving and printing, mostly in wintertime. I will take a look there on Saturday. Tomorrow is IBC ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted September 10, 2015 Share #17 Posted September 10, 2015 Rob, Fair enough, but looking at samples from many sources on a calibrated NEC PA272W, most S images are still (for my taste) too saturated. I blame default profiles designed more for impact than neutrality. --Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted September 10, 2015 Share #18 Posted September 10, 2015 Looked cat the samples at my old calibrated Eizo and my unexpressed eyes and the images are over saturated and the skin tones look wrong if compared to my S2 or my daughters Leaf. I want the 007, but I am reluctant to buy the camera now. I will wait when Adobe support it fully and the early adopters put it through its places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 10, 2015 Share #19 Posted September 10, 2015 Colors also not to my taste, but easily fixed, I suspect, by profiles and PP. That aside, another typically fine review by David....he always articulates well and provides info that others often miss. That said, I would have liked to see and get his impression on some b/w conversions. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVB Posted September 11, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 11, 2015 Rob, Fair enough, but looking at samples from many sources on a calibrated NEC PA272W, most S images are still (for my taste) too saturated. I blame default profiles designed more for impact than neutrality. --Matt This review provides links to raw files so you guys can try them out in lightroom, http://www.photographyblog.com/previews/leica_s_typ_007_photos/ I dont think it wil be long before profiles are provided,probably in the next LR update,meanwhile we can use colorchecker. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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