IkarusJohn Posted October 10, 2015 Share #1581 Posted October 10, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) If anyone wants to discuss the new M, I've started a new thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pop Posted October 11, 2015 Share #1582 Posted October 11, 2015 I have moved a number of OT posts to a new thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/251177-cheap-people-manufacturing-is-not-sustainable-ot-from-new-m-this-fall/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral75 Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1583 Posted October 13, 2015 Thanks to Digital Camera Info, a few more pieces of information concerning Leica SL: http://digicame-info.com/2015/10/leica-sl24mp4k.html A few specifications of the camera: - 24 MPix CMOS sensor- Mirrorless- AF- 4K video- A few mount adapters will be proposed [probably for R and M mount lenses] Confirmation of: - Leica Vario-Elmarit-SL 1:2.8-4 / 24-90 mm ASPH.- Leica Apo-Vario-Elmarit-SL 1:2.8-4 / 90-280 mm- Leica Summilux-SL 1:1.4 / 50 mm ASPH Addition of: - Summilux-TL 35mm ASPH.- Macro-Elmarit-TL 60mm ASPH. TL lenses are T mount lenses that can be used on both Leica T and Leica SL. Considering their focal lengths, they seem to be covering the APS-C image circle only. Whether the Leica SL and Leica T use the exact same mount or the former has a slightly different electronic component (e.g. an additional contact to detect APS-C lenses and use them in crop mode) is still unclear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHewee Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1584 Posted October 13, 2015 So is that saying that SL lenses can only be used on the SL, despite having a T mount, and TL lenses are really T lenses, that can be used on the SL in crop mode? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1585 Posted October 13, 2015 So is that saying that SL lenses can only be used on the SL, despite having a T mount, and TL lenses are really T lenses, that can be used on the SL in crop mode? Meaning that existing T lenses cannot be used on the SL? Sounds strange.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHewee Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1586 Posted October 13, 2015 Meaning that existing T lenses cannot be used on the SL? Sounds strange.... I hadn't even taken that into consideration. They would all share the same physical mount, possibly electronic connectivity aside. T: T only TL: T, and SL in crop mode SL: SL only Obviously these are completely blind hypotheses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1587 Posted October 13, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) So is that saying that SL lenses can only be used on the SL, despite having a T mount Sounds unlikely … Given that existing T lenses are APS-C-only while SL lenses must cover a 35 mm image circle and assuming that the SL has a T mount then there would be two kinds of lenses (for APS-C or 35 mm) and two kinds of bodies (with a 35 mm or APS-C sensor), unified by a shared mount. If Leica did nothing to prevent this then all lenses could be used with all bodies (if in crop mode when using an APS-C lens on a 35 mm body). Now if the SL should have the T mount even though it is not a T, would it make sense to continue calling it the Leica T mount? Homework assignment: Think about a better name for the mount to acknowledge the alleged fact that in the future it might be used with two different image sizes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaflex Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1588 Posted October 13, 2015 LLLLLLLLL L or L :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1589 Posted October 13, 2015 Sounds unlikely … Given that existing T lenses are APS-C-only while SL lenses must cover a 35 mm image circle and assuming that the SL has a T mount then there would be two kinds of lenses (for APS-C or 35 mm) and two kinds of bodies (with a 35 mm or APS-C sensor), unified by a shared mount. If Leica did nothing to prevent this then all lenses could be used with all bodies (if in crop mode when using an APS-C lens on a 35 mm body). Now if the SL should have the T mount even though it is not a T, would it make sense to continue calling it the Leica T mount? Homework assignment: Think about a better name for the mount to acknowledge the alleged fact that in the future it might be used with two different image sizes. LLLLLLLLL L or L :-) Understandable, but then SL does't mean (the assumed) S Light. So the question is, if L is just a chosen letter of the alphabet as a designation for the mount or does it stand for anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1590 Posted October 13, 2015 Here we go again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1591 Posted October 13, 2015 Understandable, but then SL does't mean (the assumed) S Light. So the question is, if L is just a chosen letter of the alphabet as a designation for the mount or does it stand for anything? The ancient art of divination by the Leica Kabbalah is way overrated I think. ‘SL’ can mean lots of things and who is to say which is the right one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1592 Posted October 13, 2015 The ancient art of divination by the Leica Kabbalah is way overrated I think. ‘SL’ can mean lots of things and who is to say which is the right one? Did you ever buy a T-shirt? There's S and M, and there's L. XL, too, and XXL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1593 Posted October 13, 2015 But is the T-shirt a true T mount? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1594 Posted October 13, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1595 Posted October 13, 2015 The ancient art of divination by the Leica Kabbalah is way overrated I think. ‘SL’ can mean lots of things and who is to say which is the right one? Trivial discussion I know. But earlier some stated the SL was a reference to the Leicaflex SL, then it was derived from the S Light. And know we have a lens mount L with prefixes S and T. Trying to make sense of it all. But so far I don't see any. The TL- lenses are differentiated from T- lenses, because.......? Perhaps the SL and TL share the same layout and innerts. Hopefully the Q-lens sets the standard for their functionality. That would be an improvement over the T-Summicron. So far it is more Madonna's Kabbalah, by the looks of it! Will try to be patient until the 20th, when all is revealed or explained, ...or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1596 Posted October 13, 2015 The TL- lenses are differentiated from T- lenses, because.......? Is there a difference? You like potato and I like potahto … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1597 Posted October 13, 2015 Is there a difference? You tell me......... But just naming them different, for the sake of it, is beyond my logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1598 Posted October 13, 2015 But just naming them different, for the sake of it, is beyond my logic Forget about the Leica Kabbalah and embrace the Leica Zen. And obviously L is for Logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1599 Posted October 13, 2015 Forget about the Leica Kabbalah and embrace the Leica Zen. And obviously L is for Logic. Well there is Standard Logic and then there is True Logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted October 13, 2015 Share #1600 Posted October 13, 2015 Is there a difference? You like potato and I like potahto … What are you hinting at? L is the new name of the mount and the lenses are from now on called SL or TL based on what sensor size they support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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