rapids41 Posted August 5, 2015 Share #41 Posted August 5, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The more I look at the title of this thread, the more I keep thinking that giving up my classic Monochrom would not be an upgrade at all, it would actually be a downgrade. Why? Because I prefer the look of the CCD digital negatives. It's that simple. I think the same about my M9. I dont have a mono yet, but I think when the secound hand prices falling <3000 EUR I will get an MM1. Only problem when I left my house would be: should I take the mono or the M9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fiftyonepointsix Posted August 5, 2015 Share #42 Posted August 5, 2015 I think the same about my M9. I dont have a mono yet, but I think when the secound hand prices falling <3000 EUR I will get an MM1. Only problem when I left my house would be: should I take the mono or the M9? I often take the M Monochrom and the M9. Both fit comfortably in a field case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted September 2, 2015 Share #43 Posted September 2, 2015 Happy with the original MM; won't be upgrading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 16, 2015 Share #44 Posted September 16, 2015 Back in December I sent my original MM to Leica New Jersey for spots on the sensor. They cleaned it and said it was not corroded, and the camera returned with a very clean sensor and no spots. Fast-forward seven months and the largest of the spots returned in the exact same size, place and shape, so the camera went back to NJ, now out-of-warranty.Well, Leica is replacing the sensor this time, and giving the camera a three year warranty (lifetime vs. sensor corrosion). A bit of a PITA, but now I will have an essentially brand-new M Monochrom again, with full warranty, subtly brassed corners (I love it) and of course the workflow and image quality that I have known and loved these last two and a half years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manicouagan1 Posted September 24, 2015 Share #45 Posted September 24, 2015 I've worked my way through the M5, M7, M8, M9, M240 and M9-MM, each of which seemed a major technological jump at the time of release. I'll skip the M246; I am still trying to master the M9-MM and having a lot of fun relearning black and white composition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acekerman Posted September 26, 2015 Share #46 Posted September 26, 2015 The original Monochrom is the only digital camera I known that has such an organic almost analog feel that it reminds me of when I first rolled and developed my own b+w film learning photography. A truly capable tool that I can spend many more years learning to shoot and process in a digital world now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted September 26, 2015 Share #47 Posted September 26, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...as is the 246, the upgraded and more refined new version... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted October 2, 2015 Share #48 Posted October 2, 2015 The original Monochrom is the only digital camera I known that has such an organic almost analog feel that it reminds me of when I first rolled and developed my own b+w film learning photography. A truly capable tool that I can spend many more years learning to shoot and process in a digital world now. I think you articulate this very well; the photos definately have an organic feel to them, a quality I find lacking in the new version with the upgraded features. In the end, for me, it's all about the image, and the feeling they give me. If I want CMOS, I will just use my Canon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morry Posted November 27, 2015 Share #49 Posted November 27, 2015 I decided to go MM1 from M246. More minimalistic, significantly lighter, and easier to concentrate shot by shot with uninterrupted instinct. Close experience to that of M7. No regrets. (I feel like I am I talking about M262?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted November 27, 2015 Share #50 Posted November 27, 2015 I decided to go MM1 from M246. More minimalistic, significantly lighter, and easier to concentrate shot by shot with uninterrupted instinct. Close experience to that of M7. No regrets. (I feel like I am I talking about M262?) Interesting - you feel you miss something the newer camera provided? ISO? Speed of operation? Details of the files? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morry Posted November 27, 2015 Share #51 Posted November 27, 2015 Interesting - you feel you miss something the newer camera provided? ISO? Speed of operation? Details of the files? I am still waiting for my MM1 to arrive but I don't think I will miss anything. For high ISO performance, checking various reviews ISO6400 of MM1 does not look bad at all, even though it is not as smooth as that of M246. It has got the taste, I think. Speed of operation is not a problem too, because I don't capture great moments because camera is faster to operate. What is more important is concentration as well as inspiration, and in that sense (based on my experience using M9 once in a while) MM1 should be just good enough to keep my ideal "rhythm" when shooting. Perhaps I feel this way because I started with M7 and used it almost exclusively for approx 5 years. For the details of the files I can not do side by side comparison, but according to various reviews MM1 stands good enough at least when ISO is low. Needless to point out, M246 is a true evolution by all means of digital technology and it is actually a RF-Mirrorless hybrid. LiveView for instance, was very useful in some occasions. However, I have just realized that I would rather keep things more simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted November 28, 2015 Share #52 Posted November 28, 2015 Interesting - you feel you miss something the newer camera provided? ISO? Speed of operation? Details of the files? ISO? ISO 5000 is gorgeous on the MM1, and 10,000 is still usable depending on the desired effect. Speed of operation? Well, the MM1 powers on instantly, so in that regard its faster than the new one. Buffer is small and 2FPS isn't much, but this isn't a sports camera. Shutter release is just as quick on MM1 as on M246. Details of the files? Subjective. Yes, the M246 has higher resolution, but not enough to matter to me at least. I find there is a wealth of detail in the MM1 files, far more than I usually need. Why I am not interested in upgrading: Leica replaced my MM1 with a new one (long story, misdiagnosed sensor problem, then VERY long wait for sensor replacing totaling over a year without my camera). Since my MM1 is brand-new there certainly is no wear issue to be concerned with. Tones. I love the tones on the original Monochrom. I've used the M246 and it is quite lovely as well, but I prefer working from the flatter files of the original. Strangely I'm the opposite when working in color and prefer a punchier starting point such as I get from my M-E or Canon 6D, but with black and white I tend to go for a lower contrast look. Workflow. I use an M-E as my main color camera and I like having the same batteries for both. Also after almost three years, I have my post processing routine (very minimal) down pat. Cost. Well, I already own it, why spend more money for new features that I don't want or need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4X5B&W Posted November 28, 2015 Share #53 Posted November 28, 2015 My recently purchased mint condition MM1, is a shooting experience just like my M4 (which I still own) and Plus X back in the 1970's…..just love it! The image quality is superb, just as good a medium format from the film days. All this from a system that utilises lenses I have owned for years. Would a M246 be better, don't know. I do know that I'm thrilled with the Monochrom shooting experience, it's almost like have a digital and film camera all in one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abboretti.m Posted November 29, 2015 Share #54 Posted November 29, 2015 No interest in the M24x generation. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted December 1, 2015 Share #55 Posted December 1, 2015 No interest in the M24x generation. thanks What cameras are you currently using, Massimiliano? Some stunning scenery on your flickr pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted December 5, 2015 Share #56 Posted December 5, 2015 haha, owned a CCD Mono. Wonderful piece! Had to let it go for financial reasons. Now I am in the position to re-buy a CCD Mono. Found one for a reasonable price on ebay. Should have been delivered today... Well monday is the day, hopefully... since I own a M240 for two years now as my main camera I have to confess that I prefer the look of the CCD. And as almost erverybody knows. It is not an issue of the camera, it's the photographers skills...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted December 7, 2015 Share #57 Posted December 7, 2015 Heyho, today the precious piece arrived. Wonderful condition. Like new and the best is, only a mere 699 actuations says shutter counter M9Info. Yeah, and the price was 3699€, bam... Now I am back in business ;-) well, maybe a nice 24 or 28 mm lens is missing. But for the time I will play with my 59er rigid Cron a little bit. thanks for your attention. haha, owned a CCD Mono. Wonderful piece! Had to let it go for financial reasons. Now I am in the position to re-buy a CCD Mono. Found one for a reasonable price on ebay. Should have been delivered today... Well monday is the day, hopefully... since I own a M240 for two years now as my main camera I have to confess that I prefer the look of the CCD. And as almost erverybody knows. It is not an issue of the camera, it's the photographers skills...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted December 8, 2015 Share #58 Posted December 8, 2015 That is one hell of a great deal on a Mono - it will keep you busy for the coming years - congrats on that deal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted December 8, 2015 Share #59 Posted December 8, 2015 Thanks Dirk. yes now I need some time to play with the little gem. Hopefully next year I have the chance to post images here in the forum. Cheers. That is one hell of a great deal on a Mono - it will keep you busy for the coming years - congrats on that deal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted December 14, 2015 Share #60 Posted December 14, 2015 Can some one explain corrosion issue, I thought about buying new v1 mm If you get used one how does warranty work but considering buying new one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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