ernst_leitz Posted April 2, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The carrying strap that came with my new M-P (240) has an unstable grip, i.e. the camera keeps slowly sliding down. I tried an older strap of the same model/design with the same problem. Now I use an old M6-strap that does the job. Is this a common problem for anyone else? Is it a design error? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LocalHero1953 Posted April 2, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 2, 2015 Not a problem I have with my M240 strap. I swap frequently between that and a wrist strap so the fittings get regular exercise. Perhaps the MP strap is different, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted April 2, 2015 Share #3 Posted April 2, 2015 Not a problem I have with my M240 strap. I swap frequently between that and a wrist strap so the fittings get regular exercise. Perhaps the MP strap is different, though. Not sure what you mean by sliding down, is it sliding off our shoulder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernst_leitz Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted April 2, 2015 Not sure what you mean by sliding down, is it sliding off our shoulder? No, the strap becomes longer. The length adjustment won't stay put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted April 2, 2015 Share #5 Posted April 2, 2015 No, the strap becomes longer. The length adjustment won't stay put. If it is the Leica nylon strap, I have never heard of one slipping like this. None of mine have ever. Leica provides a variety or straps these days depending on the camera. I now use Arte di mano classic straps which are a fixed length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 2, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 2, 2015 I never use the standard straps that have come with all 10 of my M's. Now I prefer the #14466 Leica wide leather strap which is very adjustable and high quality which softens up after a bit of use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 2, 2015 Share #7 Posted April 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Never heard of or experienced the issue you describe. The new M strap has, however, had complaints (from me among others) because the black plastic retainers that lock at the end near the strap lugs can slip off. I've used stock straps on my Ms for several decades and this is the only problem I've encountered. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted April 2, 2015 Share #8 Posted April 2, 2015 I never use the standard straps that have come with all 10 of my M's. Now I prefer the #14466 Leica wide leather strap which is very adjustable and high quality which softens up after a bit of use. I have an extra one I am willing to sell. Will you throw in one of your 10 M's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 2, 2015 Share #9 Posted April 2, 2015 Will you throw in one of your 10 M's? I no longer have 10, but might throw in a strap on the next M-P I sell. For you I would throw it in if you buy my 28-90 R lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted April 2, 2015 Share #10 Posted April 2, 2015 I no longer have 10, but might throw in a strap on the next M-P I sell. For you I would throw it in if you buy my 28-90 R lens. I am just a poor retiree on a fixed income.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted April 3, 2015 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2015 I've never had the adjustment slip on one of these straps, but I constantly had the strap slip through the attachment clip whenever I wrapped the strap around the body to put it in the bag. When I took it out the camera was no longer hanging at the bottom of the loop that goes through the attachment clip and I would have to pull it taut. It was always hard to pull, which made me wonder how it could slip so easily whenever I wrapped it around the body. Bizarre. But a long time ago I switched to the cloth Voightlander aka A&A straps and never looked back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 3, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2015 Is it a design error? Is it a user error? It is impossible for the strap to just start 'sliding down' unless it has been threaded incorrectly or there are some bits missing from it. In either case the Manual shows how to do it and shows what is required on the strap to make it work. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted April 3, 2015 Share #13 Posted April 3, 2015 I'll admit I much prefer the simple leather strap that Leitz provided in the 1960s. I still use it on my M4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted April 3, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 3, 2015 Is it a user error? It is impossible for the strap to just start 'sliding down' unless it has been threaded incorrectly or there are some bits missing from it. In either case the Manual shows how to do it and shows what is required on the strap to make it work. Steve Actually threading it incorrectly would not cause the length adjustment to slip (though it might eventually cause the camera to slip off and hit the ground ) The only things that could cause the length adjustment to shift would be defective sliders that don't create enough friction grip to maintain the strap adjustment, or, as you put it, there are some bits missing. Either way I suspect a defective strap. Though the design is the same, the more recent straps don't seem to be made to the same standard. Compared with one from the M6 era, the attaching clips and the pad of the newer ones look cheaply made by comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najja Posted April 3, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 3, 2015 Will you throw in one of your 10 M's? The same question I had :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 4, 2015 Share #16 Posted April 4, 2015 Actually threading it incorrectly would not cause the length adjustment to slip (though it might eventually cause the camera to slip off and hit the ground ) The only things that could cause the length adjustment to shift would be defective sliders that don't create enough friction grip to maintain the strap adjustment, or, as you put it, there are some bits missing.. If by 'sliders' you mean the locks that lock the ring into position they have no bearing at all on the straps length. All they should do is lock the ring, it is the two plastic buckles that both set the length of the strap and stop it moving. If you mean those buckles fair enough, we agree, but I suspect this is the culprit, they either aren't being used or they are missing, but again, there are illustrations in the Manual which should be clear enough to the OP. If the ring locks are used on their own without the buckles the strap would most definitely slip as described and eventually the camera will land on the floor. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted April 4, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 4, 2015 it is the two plastic buckles that both set the length of the strap and stop it moving. If you mean those buckles fair enough, we agree, but I suspect this is the culprit, they either aren't being used or they are missing, but again, there are illustrations in the Manual which should be clear enough to the OP. Steve I'm refering to what you call buckles. The OP said the adjustment is slowly sliding down. That means he is able to set the length initially, which would not be the case if the "buckles" were missing or not being used. I suspect they are defective, ie look normal but aren't able to hold the strap tightly enough to keep it from slipping. There would be nothing in the manual illustration to aid the OP in determining that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 4, 2015 Share #18 Posted April 4, 2015 The buckles rely on a very primitive and simple concept to work and even if they are 2mm too wide or 3mm too long the principle of the strap being locked when threaded through them is still extant. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted April 4, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 4, 2015 I call operator error, whether it be Leica or the OP. But I have a crucial problem. When I take a strap in for service, what strap should I use to carry the strap? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted April 5, 2015 Share #20 Posted April 5, 2015 I would sure like to see a photo of what the OP is talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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