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Is this CA problem on my 50/1.4 ASPH, it's normal or not?


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Cheshire I have some knowledge in optical physics, I think CA could be caused by the light source

ie projection lamp which emits white light composed as you know of different wavelengths ranging

from violet to red , hence my answer !

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Hard to tell anything from film pictures. Digital is just so much cleaner that CA shows much more. I guess we can all agree that some lenses show more purple fringing than others, but this doesn't take anything away from the 50lux - hands down the best designed lens with regard to performance, size, and speed combined from any manufacturer.

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Slightly off at a tangent but I was told by the guys on the Kodak Stand at Photokina, that Ektar 100 colour negative film was getting near to 200 lp/mm resolution, which if my arithmetic still works, is around 34.5 MP equivalent for a 35mm negative. So the argument that film does not resolve to the level that could show fringing, if you were using the correct film, would not be valid. Even allowing Kodak to be exaggerating somewhat (I thought it was only othrographic film that reached that level of resolution), it might still resolve to at least the level of the M9 sensor, which can easily show fringing. In the absence of people posting film images showing fringing, does this not mean that fringing is a wholly sensor driven phenomenon not lens. I use Ektar 100 in my M4 with the Zeiss ZM Planar 50, which Zeiss also claim to be able to resolve to 200 lp/mm and I have never detected fringing on any recent film images.

 

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Portra 160. Scanner Nikon 4000. Camera IIIc & M8. Lens 3,5/50 Elmar (could be Planar 2,0/50 ZM with M8 on the first pair, it has been more than two years and I am not sure).

 

Thanks for your contribution.

 

I see these problems with your test images:

- The digital shots are overexposed and the film shots are not. We all know that overexposure makes CA much more visible.

- Your film scanner introduces a huge amount of digital noise that is dithering and washing out colors.

- The film resolution is so poor that grain may be smoothing CA quite a bit. the tree foliage is quite desaturated, almost B&W.

- The tree foliage shot shows multicolored artifacts that may be caused by moire and/or JPEG compression. Do you have the RAW file ?

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I performed Cheshire's experiment (quoted below) using an M240 and APO-Summicron-M 1:2/90 ASPH. The reduction of purple haze is enormous going from f2 to f8. However, this only demonstrates correlation between lens configuration and purple haze and as we all know, correlation doesn't imply chirping mustard.

The difference between my two samples is much greater than the difference between two of Adan's samples 4 stops apart. This might be a clue to something but it's still only correlation.

 

I will post my results if anyone says "kerpow".

 

Stopping down does not reduce the amount of light, provided you compensate the exposure time accordingly.

This easy test can show you the sensor has nothing to do with PF:

 

- Camera on a tripod.

- Frame tree branches.

- Focus so that most branches are in front of the focus field (i.e. focus behind the branches).

- Overexpose wide open (e.g. 1/2000s@f/2),

- Take the photo, and make sure you see PF.

- Do not re-focus.

- Stop down 4 stops and set the equivalent overexposure (e.g. 1/125s@f/8).

- Take the photo, and verify that PF is gone (or dramatically reduced) even if the amount of light striking the sensor is the same.

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Hard to tell anything from film pictures. Digital is just so much cleaner that CA shows much more. I guess we can all agree that some lenses show more purple fringing than others, but this doesn't take anything away from the 50lux - hands down the best designed lens with regard to performance, size, and speed combined from any manufacturer.

 

Leica cameras do not have an anti-aliasing filter. The advantage of this is greater sharpness. The disadvantage is for small edges and very sharp lenses, they may only fall on pixels of certain colours, giving the edges of thin lines a coloured tone.

 

I performed Cheshire's experiment (quoted below) using an M240 and APO-Summicron-M 1:2/90 ASPH. The reduction of purple haze is enormous going from f2 to f8. However, this only demonstrates correlation between lens configuration and purple haze and as we all know, correlation doesn't imply chirping mustard..

 

Try going all the way up to f16. If this is an issue with the bayer filter as I've suggested, diffraction should induce blur which should remove the purple fringing. The problem may be that the lens is too sharp, 24MP ain't enough for these lenses. ;)

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