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Hello guys

 

I have today Dremel coded both my pre-asph 35/2 and my Cron 50/2 with perfect results

both functional an cosmetical, i also followed this thread...

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/22041-cv15mm-ir-uv-cut-filter-firm.html

 

...from the start and made a very similar adapter as Ritomo for my CV15, but no matter what i do i can not get the WATE menu to appear, i tried coding it as an 50mm and as

a 35 mm and this works without any problems, but i can't seem to get the WATE code

right...??? How hard can this be...? The code should be 010000 according to Carsten's very good lens coding overview:

 

http://www.digital-leica.com/lens_codes/index.html

 

Anyone have any tip/tricks to get this thing up and running...?

 

Thanks in advance...

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Hello guys

 

I have today Dremel coded both my pre-asph 35/2 and my Cron 50/2 with perfect results

both functional an cosmetical, i also followed this thread...

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/22041-cv15mm-ir-uv-cut-filter-firm.html

 

...from the start and made a very similar adapter as Ritomo for my CV15, but no matter what i do i can not get the WATE menu to appear, i tried coding it as an 50mm and as

a 35 mm and this works without any problems, but i can't seem to get the WATE code

right...??? How hard can this be...? The code should be 010000 according to Carsten's very good lens coding overview:

 

http://www.digital-leica.com/lens_codes/index.html

 

Anyone have any tip/tricks to get this thing up and running...?

 

Thanks in advance...

 

All I can say is that I used the Dymo tape technique and it worked first time - so as long as the adaptor you are using is bringing up the correct framelines, then my experience shows that it is possible...

 

Good luck!

 

Tim

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Hello guys

 

I have today Dremel coded both my pre-asph 35/2 and my Cron 50/2 with perfect results

both functional an cosmetical, i also followed this thread...

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/22041-cv15mm-ir-uv-cut-filter-firm.html

 

...from the start and made a very similar adapter as Ritomo for my CV15, but no matter what i do i can not get the WATE menu to appear, i tried coding it as an 50mm and as

a 35 mm and this works without any problems, but i can't seem to get the WATE code

right...??? How hard can this be...? The code should be 010000 according to Carsten's very good lens coding overview:

 

Leica M8 Lens Codes

 

Anyone have any tip/tricks to get this thing up and running...?

 

Thanks in advance...

 

Carsten's code is correct, it works fine on my JohnM adapter. Are you sure you are using an adapter for the correct framelines?

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Carsten's code is correct, it works fine on my JohnM adapter. Are you sure you are using an adapter for the correct framelines?

 

I think so, but does it matter what framelines it brings up? Since we have to use an external viewfinder anyway....?

 

If so what Voigtlander adapter can i use, i always used this adapter for my 15CV

but i cant remember what focal length it says, and it's left in my studio, i really

hope this is not the case since the adapter is glued on the CV15 mount, arrghhhh..

 

Any solution for this bad situation.... ??

 

Ohhh, do i feel silly... :-(

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That's likely the problem. Yes, it needs to be a 28/90 (9 cm) adapter to trigger the correct code detection in the M8. This is because the WATE itself triggers the 28/90 lines, as does the 21/2.8, etc. This is true for hand-coding most lenses.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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That's likely the problem. Yes, it needs to be a 28/90 (9 cm) adapter to trigger the correct code detection in the M8. This is because the WATE itself triggers the 28/90 lines, as does the 21/2.8, etc. This is true for hand-coding most lenses.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

 

DOOOHHHH!!!

 

I feel so stupid, not thinking of this, but i never ever thought about what framelines

my adapter/CV15 combination brought up, since i always use an external viewfinder... :-(

 

That's was not what i wanted to hear, anyway to modify the adapter, (i think it's a 75/50 adapter) with let's say a dremel, to make it choose the right frame lines...?

 

I really hope so..., if not i'm screwed...:-(

 

Any suggestion would be wildy appreciated....

 

Best Regards from mister stupid lens/adapter destroyer... :-(

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... Any suggestion would be wildy appreciated...QUOTE]

 

The suggestion, of course, would be to get John Milich's adapter, which he mills for you. I believe that's where the other guys are. He has manufactured both the 90mm and the 135mm adapters, and mills them. You choose the one you want.

 

I purchased his 90mm and the brass is really handsome.

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... Any suggestion would be wildy appreciated...QUOTE]

 

The suggestion, of course, would be to get John Milich's adapter, which he mills for you. I believe that's where the other guys are. He has manufactured both the 90mm and the 135mm adapters, and mills them. You choose the one you want.

 

I purchased his 90mm and the brass is really handsome.

 

But my adapter is glued on the CV15 mount, that's the whole problem... but

at the time of mounting and making the missing part of the CV adapter it was

so much easier to fit it directly to it's base/mount, but now i wish i had gone

the hard way around this, but then again, to late, way to late... :-(

 

And yes i feel stupid.... :-(

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Alexander, maybe all is not lost.

 

IF the adapter you have has more cam than necessary, you can have some ground off so that the camera thinks it's a 90mm adapter.

 

Someone else here will know if this is possible.

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Alexander, maybe all is not lost.

 

IF the adapter you have has more cam than necessary, you can have some ground off so that the camera thinks it's a 90mm adapter.

 

Someone else here will know if this is possible.

 

Ohhh, i really hope so, and if this is the case please can someone show me

where and how much i need to grind off, i'm keeping my fingers crossed... :-)

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Alexander,

I'm sorry, but I don't think you can fix it short of removing the adapter from the lens. The 28/90 has the longest frame line flange of all the mounts. Had it been th other way around you could have filed some off, but extending it will be hard.

 

There's an outfit in town that apparently are really good at fixing camera gear. I suggest you give them a call and see if they can help you get the adapter separated from the mount. They're old Canon techs, if they can't help you maybe they know where yoy should call. They're called "Serviceproffen" Serviceproffen

 

Best of luck!

- Carl

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Alexander,

I'm sorry, but I don't think you can fix it short of removing the adapter from the lens. The 28/90 has the longest frame line flange of all the mounts. Had it been th other way around you could have filed some off, but extending it will be hard.

 

There's an outfit in town that apparently are really good at fixing camera gear. I suggest you give them a call and see if they can help you get the adapter separated from the mount. They're old Canon techs, if they can't help you maybe they know where yoy should call. They're called "Serviceproffen" Serviceproffen

 

Best of luck!

- Carl

 

 

Thanks Carl...

 

I just won the biggest idiot of the month award on this forum...

 

I will try to get it off tomorrow, but i dont think there is much

hope since i used two component glue, which is very strong...

 

Anyone got any special tip on removing glued stuff, don't hesitate

to tell me...

 

I will try to sleep my foolishness off... :-)

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... Any suggestion would be wildy appreciated...QUOTE]

 

The suggestion, of course, would be to get John Milich's adapter, which he mills for you. I believe that's where the other guys are. He has manufactured both the 90mm and the 135mm adapters, and mills them. You choose the one you want.

 

I purchased his 90mm and the brass is really handsome.

 

Hi Bill,

 

He's doing 5 cm adapters as well. The material, I'm told, is actually bronze so you won third place! <G> Then again, I think he told me he's making some in brass and some in bronze.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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Hi Alexander,

 

I'm not sure how you're using the lens but if its with the camera on a tripod, you can hold the frame line lever in towards the mount to trigger the 28-90 frame lines. That will activate the code detection. Not ideal, but under the circumstances...

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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in terms of metal removal on the tab:

15 and 90 lenses (9cm): the least

50 lens (5cm) take off another .037"

35 and 135 lenses (13.5cm) take off yet another .035"

the tab that actually triggers the switch is on the opposite side from the lens lock U-groove.

 

the only way i have heard for removing epoxy is to heat it and apply slow steady pressure to unscrew the flange. you probably need to get it to about boiling water temp however and that might very well damage the lens.

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Alexander In your case I would get out my dentists drill aka dremel and CAREFULLY grind a slit in the adapter. You can then bend the adapter open which will loosen it, as two component glue does not adhere to metal. Even if you damage the thread of the lens a bit all is not lost, as chances are that you will be able to screw a JohnM adapter over the damage with some fiddling, after cleaning off the glue rests of course.

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