algrove Posted August 11, 2015 Share #121 Posted August 11, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have found the M 240 to be fine for landscapes, used with a light Gitzo tripod. However, when I'm serious, out comes my Hasselblad - which delivers, in my view, much more stunning results. I also recently had a Hasselblad with Phase One back and still shoot with a MF digital camera. However, even when using my M's for landscapes shooting I consider my M landscape shooting as being serious too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mornnb Posted August 11, 2015 Share #122 Posted August 11, 2015 I too was very disappointed to realize the limitations for "bulb" exposure when I went to photograph the Milky Way the other night. I was sure the night was going to be a total loss, as I couldn't get exposure times greater than 16s at the ISO (500) and aperture (4.0) I wanted to use. That being said, I was pleasantly surprised when, in Lightroom, with an exposure increase to 2.60, the photos came out relatively well, with little to no noise, considering the above noted limitations (attachment below.) It won't win any Nat Geo prizes or become the new standard for astrophotography, but if you're enjoying a night out with the Milky Way you can still get the job done. I would suggest a faster lenses, for example the 21mm Summilux. Focused to infinity. That will surely make up for any issues with exposure time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsprow Posted August 11, 2015 Share #123 Posted August 11, 2015 As much as I love and use my M240 and M4, I have found it just doesn't the job for landscape shooting. For this I drag a Hasselblad and I tripod along, take the time to set up correctly and get great results. This also applies to indoor architectural shots. The M's are for everything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted August 12, 2015 Share #124 Posted August 12, 2015 I get great indoor ( and outdoor) architectural shots with the WATE at 18mm on an M240. But my M is silver so that must help. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendriphile Posted August 12, 2015 Share #125 Posted August 12, 2015 For a number of years, the Pentax 67 was considered one of the standard cameras for those committed to astrophotography, both used "solo" on a tripod or attached to a telescope... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 12, 2015 Share #126 Posted August 12, 2015 As much as I love and use my M240 and M4, I have found it just doesn't the job for landscape shooting. For this I drag a Hasselblad and I tripod along, take the time to set up correctly and get great results. This also applies to indoor architectural shots. The M's are for everything else. According to the manual there is a hole underneath the M240 that can be used to attach the camera to a tripod, I imagine this is similar to a Hasselblad that also has a hole. Steve 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted August 12, 2015 Share #127 Posted August 12, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) According to the manual there is a hole underneath the M240 that can be used to attach the camera to a tripod, I imagine this is similar to a Hasselblad that also has a hole. Steve Does not overcome the 1 minute exposure limitation. Although, the wide angle lenses available are generally better than other platforms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 12, 2015 Share #128 Posted August 12, 2015 Of course, the Hasselblad has two hole underneath. I'm sure that makes a difference. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 12, 2015 Share #129 Posted August 12, 2015 Of course, the Hasselblad has two hole underneath. I'm sure that makes a difference. I've seen Hasselblad are very expensive for an old camera, you pay more for two holes? Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted August 12, 2015 Share #130 Posted August 12, 2015 you pay more for two holes? Steve Must...resist...double entendre comment. Must resist... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 12, 2015 Share #131 Posted August 12, 2015 I've seen Hasselblad are very expensive for an old camera, you pay more for two holes? Steve My dealer says, 'buy one, get one free! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 12, 2015 Share #132 Posted August 12, 2015 Does not overcome the 1 minute exposure limitation. Although, the wide angle lenses available are generally better than other platforms. Look on the bright side, it puts an end to long exposures of a jetty sticking out into the sea, and a 60 second indicated exposure is 60 seconds, if using film a 60 second indicated exposure could mean you standing around for 10 minutes waiting for the reciprocity failure to catch up. Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmitch6 Posted August 13, 2015 Share #133 Posted August 13, 2015 To say that the M isn't a good platform for landscapes because of constraints on long exposures is a bit of a stretch. I primarily shoot landscapes, and find the M to by my preferred platform to do so. It sounds like the issue is more with things like astrophotography, and extreme long exposures. But the M is a fine landscape camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 13, 2015 Share #134 Posted August 13, 2015 Digitally blend multiple long exposure pics for even longer exposure. Work around limitations if you like the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted August 13, 2015 Share #135 Posted August 13, 2015 M240 really sucks for landscapes. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/240073-leica-m-240-its-serious-drawbacks-for-landscape-shooters-%E2%80%93-but-can-we-fix-it/?do=findComment&comment=2870825'>More sharing options...
Exodies Posted August 13, 2015 Share #136 Posted August 13, 2015 It's certainly not optimised for rocks and sea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieg Posted August 13, 2015 Share #137 Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah, absolutely awful for landscapes, rocks, snow etc!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/240073-leica-m-240-its-serious-drawbacks-for-landscape-shooters-%E2%80%93-but-can-we-fix-it/?do=findComment&comment=2871165'>More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted August 13, 2015 Share #138 Posted August 13, 2015 If the M happens to be all I have with me and I want to shoot a landscape image, then it is more than fine. But it is not my first or even second choice by any means. I much prefer either my Hasselblad or 4x5 system for that work, especially now that I am likely going to get a CFV50c back for the Hasselblad system for when I need to shoot digital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted August 13, 2015 Share #139 Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) To say that the M isn't a good platform for landscapes because of constraints on long exposures is a bit of a stretch. I primarily shoot landscapes, and find the M to by my preferred platform to do so. It sounds like the issue is more with things like astrophotography, and extreme long exposures. But the M is a fine landscape camera. I'd agree, indeed the M240 sensor has a lot of dynamic range and low noise in shadows making it very suitable for landscape. Although 1 minute exposure limit is still a big problem, it greatly limits options for smooth water effects. Edited August 13, 2015 by Mornnb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted August 13, 2015 Share #140 Posted August 13, 2015 Long exposure is an area where film still wins. The reciprocity characteristics of film let you bring out the shadows without blowing out the highlights. HDR just isn't the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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