Prosophos Posted February 13, 2015 Share #181 Posted February 13, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica M-E and 75mm Summarit. —Peter. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2763731'>More sharing options...
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Lenshacker Posted February 13, 2015 Share #182 Posted February 13, 2015 Leica M8, 1950 Jupiter-3 5cm F1.5, wide-open at 1/30th and ISO2500. M8_4_F15_ISO2500 This is using "Raw Mode" and M8raw2dng processing. Same exposure with the Monochrom. Monochrom4_F15_ISO2500 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbywise Posted February 16, 2015 Share #183 Posted February 16, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2765855'>More sharing options...
mikeleng Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share #184 Posted February 17, 2015 Leica M9P CCD sensor, sorry to keep the thread alive . regards Mike Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2766235'>More sharing options...
bobbywise Posted February 18, 2015 Share #185 Posted February 18, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MM + 35 mm Lux FLE Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MM + 35 mm Lux FLE ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2766956'>More sharing options...
TonyField Posted February 18, 2015 Share #186 Posted February 18, 2015 With appropriate exposure, the CCD works well in B&W as long as the scene brightness range is within the M9's sensor range. Over all, it is great for quick snapshots. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2766979'>More sharing options...
TonyField Posted February 19, 2015 Share #187 Posted February 19, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The M9 CCD sensor system really can work well on dull overcast evenings and still bring some "pop" to the image. This was taken while I was sitting in a downtown Starbucks and noticed a lady with nice legs ... and I shot through the dirty window as she passed! Humm... Red Shoe Diaries. All that was needed in the image is an increase in contrast.... I am not always happy with how the M9 auto-exposure works ... but so many grab images are shot when you don't have time to set up the camera and focus in a contemplative way - particularly when the 75mm lens is wide open ! I obviously missed the focus point by at least 0.5 m. Of the two frames taken, one was at the actual focus point (the big black blob) but did not work well as this one slightly out of focus one step later.. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2767133'>More sharing options...
erl Posted February 19, 2015 Share #188 Posted February 19, 2015 Tony, focus is not the most important thing, but I know what you mean. In this case, legs and shoes triumph. P.S. My wife only wears red shoes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 21, 2015 Share #189 Posted February 21, 2015 Leica M8, ISO1250 eqv using M8RAW mode. Skate and Fun Zone 1950 J-3 that was made by Zeiss in 1943, wide-open at F1.5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbywise Posted February 21, 2015 Share #190 Posted February 21, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2768592'>More sharing options...
Go Figure Posted March 6, 2017 Share #191 Posted March 6, 2017 P.S. Highlights have never been a problem.It's always the shadows that limit the usability for fine reportage work. So,... .... I always had high hopes that lenshacker and arvid would team up and find a remedy ( RAW converter ) against the ccd sensor lines that start creeping into the shadows once you go past ISO 160 EV -1.33. That said and loving my old M8s and M9s ... I would buy a M10 the moment they switch back to optical frame lines ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Figure Posted March 6, 2017 Share #192 Posted March 6, 2017 Leica M8, ISO1250 eqv using M8RAW mode. Skate and Fun Zone 1950 J-3 that was made by Zeiss in 1943, wide-open at F1.5. wonderful to see why the 50/1.5 was designed in the first place ... Zeiss > light years ahead of L/N/C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Figure Posted March 6, 2017 Share #193 Posted March 6, 2017 Exif tells a slightly different story ... althought it looks reminiscent of the 35/2 IV @ f2/0 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=3228222'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 6, 2017 Share #194 Posted March 6, 2017 I posted in M8 pictures thread, but I couldn't find M9 pictures thread, BTW. One thing which might be not so obvious on the internet pictures. It was growing on me since I get M-E in October 2016 and today it finally formulated in my head . I never been pixel peeping person with CMOS sensors and I've had couple of FF CMOS cameras before getting M-E. With CMOS if zoomed 100% most often I see pixels. And it is just digital representation. With M9 and even M8 I'm finding it to be much more interesting and worth of looking at the image in 100% zoom. On good monitor and powerful graphic card, of course, not just at iPad, Retina display, which saturate and over contrast any picture . So, with M9 sensor at 100% zoom I'm finding it to be very different comparing to CMOS. I used FF CMOS camera with very sharp, modern macro lens and still at 100% zoom it was array of pixels. With M9 CCD if zoomed in, it is giving solid, un-pixelated image details. It feels like it could be zoomed to another 100% before pixels will start to show up. I don't think it is as simple as removing on AA filter, but CCD rendering most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Bachmann Posted March 6, 2017 Share #195 Posted March 6, 2017 I've not looked deeply into the CCD vs CMOS images, but know that the images from my Leica M9 usually has a quality I appreciate more than what I was getting over my full frame (CMOS) DSLR. I always attributed it to not having an AA filter and Leica (plus some Voitlander) lens quality. Beco do Arco Escuro Leica M9, Noctilux f/1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted March 8, 2017 Share #196 Posted March 8, 2017 I've written an "Open Letter to Leica" asking for an updated CCD sensor in a future M camera (it currently has over 350 signatures): An open letter to Leica… | Photographs by Peter I'll gladly contribute to this thread. —Peter. - - - I added my name to this list. I'm still loving my Monochrom. I recently sold my Canon gear to purchase a Leica Sony A7RII which can produce stunning images, but still, not quite the same quality of my Monochrom CCD version Leica, it's missing that magical element. I would love to have the Monochrom sensor on the Sony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beena22 Posted March 8, 2017 Share #197 Posted March 8, 2017 I'm loving the CCD sensor in my new (to me) M9. It produces such rich looking files. Taken with a Jupiter 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelstrata Posted March 17, 2017 Share #198 Posted March 17, 2017 Finding my newly acquired M9 to be excellent in low light and night photography. Would be even better using a 1.4 lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beena22 Posted March 17, 2017 Share #199 Posted March 17, 2017 Bought a Zeiss Planar ZM to compliment my new M9. Loving the colours you get from this combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosophos Posted March 20, 2017 Share #200 Posted March 20, 2017 I added my name to this list. I'm still loving my Monochrom. I recently sold my Canon gear to purchase a Leica Sony A7RII which can produce stunning images, but still, not quite the same quality of my Monochrom CCD version Leica, it's missing that magical element. I would love to have the Monochrom sensor on the Sony. Dear Wilfredo, Thank you very much for adding your name. People still continue to sign my letter, and I continue to photograph exclusively (for digital) with several of my M9 bodies. I will keep doing so until I have none left, and then.... who knows? Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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