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Try boating! When I was a lot younger it was described as ripping up £5 notes under a cold shower. Now I realise that it's a myth: think of it a a hole in the water which one attempts to fill with money. I get a lot more use from a Leica, but even so the 60th. job has a heck of price tag.

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The video has certainly cleared up one thing for me: it was hard for me to understand the appeal of a digital camera without a LCD but from the video, since the white-gloved stranger is a left eyed shooter, it is obvious that Leica omitted the LCD to avoid nose-smudges on the screen. Sheer genius.;)

 

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It's easily forgot when considering the price tag of this edition that, at £12,000, it isn't actually that much more expensive than buying a new M-P and 35 Summilux. I suppose most of us only ever buy a camera body or a lens on any particular occasion so the aggregate cost gets lost a little but if you pop into a dealer today to buy the M-P/Summilux combination you'll still be paying the thick end of £9,000.:eek: A far cry from the £3,000 or so I paid for a new M7 and 35 Summilux (then both the current flagship products) about 10 years or so ago.

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The video has certainly cleared up one thing for me: it was hard for me to understand the appeal of a digital camera without a LCD but from the video, since the white-gloved stranger is a left eyed shooter, it is obvious that Leica omitted the LCD to avoid nose-smudges on the screen. Sheer genius.;)

 

Pete.

 

Nah, because sooner or later people will realize that for a quarter of the cost you could have your nose removed and still breathe through your mouth.

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Nah, because sooner or later people will realize that for a quarter of the cost you could have your nose removed and still breathe through your mouth.

Wouldn't it leave a slightly unsightly hole in the middle of the face that might attract flies and small woodland creatures? Sneezing might become hazardous (to others) too.

 

And how would one keep one's spectacles in place?

 

Pete.:D

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Wouldn't it leave a slightly unsightly hole in the middle of the face that might attract flies and small woodland creatures? Sneezing might become hazardous (to others) too.

 

Loose skin from cheeks pulled over the opening and sewn together. As a bonus it'd take 10 years off your looks.

 

And how would one keep one's spectacles in place?

 

Hmm, well, glasses wearers would need to spend another couple thou for Lasik.

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If Leica makes money selling special editions to well endowed people that's great, why not. Maybe they can even be test beds for new features like LED frame-lines which I love.

 

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Try boating! When I was a lot younger it was described as ripping up £5 notes under a cold shower. Now I realise that it's a myth: think of it a a hole in the water which one attempts to fill with money. I get a lot more use from a Leica, but even so the 60th. job has a heck of price tag.

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Robert

 

Not so! My wife and I, and the dog, live on a boat. Even quite a good one, like ours, costs far less than a house, and with the money saved, I can afford my M's, although the one in question would be a bit of a stretch.

 

Making collectibles for collectors does seem a little like the tiny counties that used to (and maybe still do) print glossy postage stamps for the bulk philatelic market.

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And how would one keep one's spectacles in place?

 

Pete.:D

 

aren't you a photographer ?

 

you should know that the correct answer to anything that needs holding down, is Gaffa Tape ! (or cable ties)

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The M60 is made for people in the digital era to experience the old time film like shooting experience.

 

In my two cents it is a toy for the rich and in a way for Leica to bring present something different way to enjoy the shooting experience. It is simply a toy because it doesn't make any differences compare to the new M-P.

 

For people like me, using the M-P, who can actually making M-P or their 240 into M60. Just simply don't use the screen on the back of your cam, but indeed your 240 or M-P do better job in a way you have the extra screen on the back you can have a look anytime you want it to. Isn't it a nice add on ?

 

Other than above point, I really don't see the M60 bring anything else to the table besides take screen out of your 240, or the M-P.

 

Can you take better pictures with M60? In the digital time if people don't like the video option or the screen on the back you can simply go back to film camera why bother with digital ? If you admitted the convenience of digital or having better result the digital brings to you then what you care the extra screen then???

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If you admitted the convenience of digital or having better result the digital brings to you then what you care the extra screen then???

 

Maybe you might like the ergonomic benefits of the smoother, simpler camera back – a camera without all the buttons and various protrusions? Given the choice of an M240 or M60 at the same price, I know I'd rather buy the M60. As things stand I've chosen not to buy either.:)

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Maybe you might like the ergonomic benefits of the smoother, simpler camera back – a camera without all the buttons and various protrusions? Given the choice of an M240 or M60 at the same price, I know I'd rather buy the M60. As things stand I've chosen not to buy either.:)

The only real issue I have had with the M240 back layout is that when I shoot in portrait/vertical orientation, my glasses frames sometimes activate the live view button.

I would have rather had the live view button put on the top plate, underneath the "M" button and a bit to its right, using the same type 6mm chrome button as the "M" mode.

 

Alas, the M240 design team in Solms failed to consult me during the design process. :(

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The only real issue I have had with the M240 back layout is that when I shoot in portrait/vertical orientation, my glasses frames sometimes activate the live view button...

Did you try to disable the live view button? Just curious.

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Totally agree with colonel in #29.

The OP and the referred site seem to come new to the Leica history.

It has always been so that Leica comes up with exorbitant high priced 'Sondermodelle' in small quantities. It's part of their PR and I'm not an economist but it seems to be part of the market-game. I rationally cannot understand it just as I cannot understand the amounts of money put into dayly TV-commercials, which Leica does not participate in

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As someone that is lucky enough to use both an M and an M6 I can actually see why a digital M with the raw (forgive the pun) functionality of the M6 (no screen and menu options) would be attractive. It would have to be cheaper than the current M but given that the model would probably only appeal to film (ex or otherwise) users I doubt that sales would permit reduced pricing as development and retooling of the production line would need to be recouped. Likely the cost of any possible mass market M60 would come at a 20% premium on the current M. Most single Leica digital owners (and I refer to ownership, not the result of losing marital status due to Leica purchases) would then probably purchase the new M with a screen and associated additional functionality.

 

Shame really. I know I think more when using film. Although this is probably more to do with 24/26 exposures and cost/development than instant preview. Digital users without and LCD would probably take even more shots to ensure they captured "all the moments".

 

James

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