colonel Posted October 24, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 24, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Worth mentioning that the M240 B&W conversions are terrific The MM has a special mid tone range which is hard to replicate. The only time I have seen as good tones is when Ming Thein stripped down a Nex 5 by taking out the AA and bayer filter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fjheimann Posted October 24, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 24, 2014 I have the MM and the 240. Undoubtely I would keeg the Mono in case of selling one. The midtones are the crack of the bisquit. Franz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted October 24, 2014 Share #23 Posted October 24, 2014 Lol, 240 owner who would love to have monochrome , wish I could afford both camerasSorry had to chime in Same here. @Acekerman - unless you are blessed with very deep pockets, proceed with extreme caution in regard to selling the MM. Don't do something you will end up regretting and face hardship in correcting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted October 26, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 26, 2014 Guys I'm thinking of selling my Monochrom for a M240. Is this the worst decision I've ever made? I'm fearful of regrets but I really like the M240. At the end of the day its about the photos and I'd like to hear from anyone who switched and if the M240 gets even close. Thanks in advance everyone.Cheers Brian I just bought a Sony A7s. I cannot afford a Leica MM or M 240 so I went with the A7s to supplement my M-9P. I've read some positive reviews using M lenses so I took a chance a bought the A7s along with a adapter for my M lenses. After one week of owning this camera, I must say that this camera is amazing. I did not expect it to work this well with my M lenses. M lenses does not seem to be legacy Leica lenses on the A7s. I've never owed a electronic view finder camera and I was very sceptical how this would work under regular photographic shooting conditions but I find it to be very good. View finder is detailed enough to be used for focusing my sumilux lenses wide open and the option to turn on focus peaking makes it even easier to focus and I even find it much quicker to focus then on my M9-P. I highly recommend to look at this camera to supplement any Leica M digital. Down side is low megapixel but pros are high ISO preformance I don't have in the M9-P. M9-P has the world's best base ISO preformance (in color) IMO and the Sony A7s has high ISO performance and fantastic EVF that shows you what you see is what you get, in real time. I know it's not a Leica brand camera but that alone should not keep anyone out of trying something new, especially a camera that expands your photographic posibilities the way the A7s does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted October 28, 2014 Share #25 Posted October 28, 2014 It was an easy decision really as I bought it with the express intention of proving to myself that it could replace my Rolleiflex/Hasselblad MF film systems for B&W images and then I'd sell one, or the other. I gave myself 12 months and that's just passing. B&W film wins hands down, even when scanned and digitally printed. This perspective is actually very interesting to me, since I was thinking about replacing my Fuji GA645 and Rolleiflex 2.8F (my two "smallest format" medium format cameras) with an MM, particularly to take advantage of the 21/4.5 Biogon. I don't think it would displace my Fuji 6x9 with its 50mm symmetrical Fujinon (which resolves like a 35mm lens - but on a much larger negative). But with film, I shoot almost exclusively at EI 400 and under. I do have to say that the biggest hangup with the MM is worrying that the electronics will annoy the hell out of me (I found that the M 240's electronics and battery life were something of a revelation after the M8). Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay101 Posted October 29, 2014 Share #26 Posted October 29, 2014 Interesting thread. I hired a Monochrom and have wanted to own one every day since then. But I wait for the inevitable 240 based update so as to avoid the quirks of the current monochrome (I found the LCD poor, the buffer wanting, plus it hung up twice. Otherwise awesome!) But I wait and wait, so much so that today I nearly bought an M240 thinking I'd just convert to B&W - but no, the Monochrome's resolution and the tones were amazing. I must be patient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakko Posted October 29, 2014 Share #27 Posted October 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) @Acekerman Let us know if you decide to go through with selling MM, I'm sure there'd be lost of interest. I'm looking to get into this whole Leica thing (that's right—purest Leica virgin here and first post in this forum) and MM sounds like my kind of no-holds-barred deal (much to the puzzlement of my other half). Thanks, Chuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted November 3, 2014 Share #28 Posted November 3, 2014 I do not want to hijack this thread but I've been following this and a few other MM vs M240 discussions with interest. Now that this thread is getting a little long in the tooth, I thought I'd jump in with my own dilemma. I'm thinking of selling my S2 and getting either a MM or a M240. I purchased the S2 about 9 months ago for copy work in a new studio building where the light and passing truck traffic would make long exposures problematic. Well, thanks to slow moving architects and the planning commission, I'm still in my old studio and am now entertaining an offer on my business. Bottom line is I don't need the S2 anymore. Yes, the S2 makes a wonderful b&w conversion but the weight, bulk and expense of additional lenses are more than I want to deal with - especially if I retire. So there will be a second M body in my future. MM or M240, that is the question. I guess I'll keep on reading these threads until the choice becomes obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 4, 2014 Share #29 Posted November 4, 2014 I guess I'll keep on reading these threads until the choice becomes obvious. Or rent both and make a decision based on your own experience and preferences. The forum presents no "obvious" choices IMO…on this or other matters. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faranstudio Posted November 10, 2014 Share #30 Posted November 10, 2014 Currently own both, if I plan to only keep one, will hold on to MM. M240 was my first Leica M camera and got MM very recently. MM output is very similar to my Hasselblad H4D-50. I love to see MM sensor with M240 technology Shooting with MM and 50mm APO is an interesting experience. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonmember Posted November 10, 2014 Share #31 Posted November 10, 2014 I have an MM, and have used it intensively for 2 years. Its the detail and the mid tone range... Now I do sometimes want to shoot colour and I tried every possible alternative to getting a 2nd M body last year. Olympus OMD Em-5, Sony (tried in shop), OMD EM-1. Theres no getting away from it, the best body for an M lens is an M body.... So I got an M240 when one came up with £500 off it. Funny though, I've hardy used it all year since. Maybe I don't really need colour after all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted November 11, 2014 Share #32 Posted November 11, 2014 Do you feel at a loss without a color option? The Monochrom is not for everyone. It is mostly for those for whom B&W photogrphy is what their craft is all about. Does that describe you? If not, sell it and find your camera. BTW, there are many less expensive color options on the market if you want something that shoots color for occassional use. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted November 12, 2014 Share #33 Posted November 12, 2014 If you need colour consider getting an X Vario … and keep using your MM. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 12, 2014 Share #34 Posted November 12, 2014 Guys I'm thinking of selling my Monochrom for a M240. Is this the worst decision I've ever made? I'm fearful of regrets but I really like the M240. At the end of the day its about the photos and I'd like to hear from anyone who switched and if the M240 gets even close. Thanks in advance everyone.Cheers If you are going to have only one Leica and want to do color, then ditch the Monochrom. It is really that simple. To further your idea of selling the Monochrom, if all you do are images to be viewed on a monitor, then a 240 will more than suffice when rendered in B&W. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knisely Posted November 14, 2014 Share #35 Posted November 14, 2014 So let me tell my MM story from two days ago. About a week ago, I decided I had too many camera bodies. I have started using an A7s with my Leica lenses and decided I would list my Monochrom on eBay. It sold, and two days ago the buyer drove down from Los Angeles to pick the camera up. We talked for a little while and showed some of our work to each other. He walked out the door and twenty minutes later I realized I made a mistake. The Monochrom is an amazing camera, some of my best images ever came from the Monochrom. So I went online and purchased a new Monochrom and should receive it later today. I basically wasted $1,7000 thinking I didn't need the MM! It is a great camera and I suggest everyone who had an MM treat it like family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 15, 2014 Share #36 Posted November 15, 2014 If B&W is your primary interest, as it is mine, a reasonable alternative might be to keep the MM, which is an amazing tool, and purchase a D Lux (typ 109) for occasional color work. I have high hopes for this camera, with its four thirds sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbeyFoto Posted November 15, 2014 Share #37 Posted November 15, 2014 Guys I'm thinking of selling my Monochrom for a M240. Is this the worst decision I've ever made? I'm fearful of regrets but I really like the M240. At the end of the day its about the photos and I'd like to hear from anyone who switched and if the M240 gets even close. Thanks in advance everyone.Cheers Brian Hang on for now. See if there is a M240 Mono as rumoured? Best of both worlds - apart from owning both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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