tomasis7 Posted September 24, 2014 Share #21 Posted September 24, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just now it was 45% of respondents to the survey in this forum who wanted a digital M with no display. it is a lot! i was surprised by positive response by the users here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Hi tomasis7, Take a look here M 60 - regular production?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share #22 Posted September 24, 2014 You'd be surprised. At Photokina most of the small crowd admiring the camera were toting Canikons or high-end Japanese compacts, there were virtually no negative comments, other than I wish I could afford it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted September 24, 2014 Share #23 Posted September 24, 2014 I still don't get why I should dispense with all the features the LCD provides unless the camera was thinned back to M7 depth. Yes even if the mount had to protrude. The lens mount is irrelevant to gripping the camera. Otherwise I turn off auto review and ignore the LCD aside from menus just as I do with every digital camera I own or have owned. The other thing about the M 60 that completely turns me off is the red-only frame lines. I detest them on the M240 but at least it's only an option. The frame lines are white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Louis Marit Posted September 24, 2014 Share #24 Posted September 24, 2014 I would have agreed with tasteless from the photograph. In the flesh I think it is a beautiful design. As I have only seen the photograph I will take your word for it. Often things do look better in person than in a 2 dimensional image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 25, 2014 Share #25 Posted September 25, 2014 I could see a Monochrom version of this camera (especially if thinner) as being appealing to those seeking a digital M in a more film M package/experience. In fact, that would have made more sense to me as an anniversary edition. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raul Posted September 25, 2014 Share #26 Posted September 25, 2014 attach the camera to computer, voila! or bluetooth, wifi to smartphone with a Leica app to change, customize settings. Easy as pie! Good point. This camera will probably go through an iteration or two until it gets to a point where they're able to dtermine what to offload to the computer and what to leave on the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 25, 2014 Share #27 Posted September 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't think it has a USB port, so I'm not sure how you'll establish a connection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscheffler Posted September 25, 2014 Share #28 Posted September 25, 2014 I love the idea, but if it uses the m240 sensor, it just seems silly to invest in technology that will probably be updated in another year. If they release the next generation M in two versions, ie. one with and another without a LCD I would go for the one without lcd. Maybe there will be four versions - colour with and without LCD - monochrom with and without LCD. Silver and black body options for each would result in eight variants. I could see the monochrom option being non-LCD only.... I could live without the LCD if there is an EVF option for those times I want to use live view and review images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted September 25, 2014 Share #29 Posted September 25, 2014 I don't think lack of a screen is a problem to be solved for the fans of blind shooting. So, no EVF, no wifi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted September 25, 2014 Share #30 Posted September 25, 2014 If a screen-less camera where to ever be released as a standard item I presume in some way it will need to be interface with certain functions that are needed for digital photography such as setting the time and date in camera, formatting the card etc. I suppose this could be done either by having an attachable EVF or a way to let the camera communicate wirelessly with a say a phone app so all of this could be done remotely. You could also go for a small top mounted LCD display which could be used for giving this info (like a en enlarge M8 battery and farm counter). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 25, 2014 Share #31 Posted September 25, 2014 I don't think lack of a screen is a problem to be solved for the fans of blind shooting. So' date=' no EVF, no wifi.[/quote'] I can see where the lack of a screen might solve a problem for fans of blind shooting who lack the self-discipline to keep autoreview disabled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasis7 Posted September 25, 2014 Share #32 Posted September 25, 2014 I can see where the lack of a screen might solve a problem for fans of blind shooting who lack the self-discipline to keep autoreview disabled. you are missing the point. Less unnecessary discipline means less distractions. Focus the discipline on the most relevant things! Blind shooting using OVF? good try, maybe Leica forum is wrong for some ppl. I suggest some videography forums. AVF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 25, 2014 Share #33 Posted September 25, 2014 This thread reminds me in a rather general way of similar threads following the introduction of the M (Typ 240). I might be mistaken, but it seems that some who argue here that you can ignore all of a screen, six buttons, a cross-action control and a thumb wheel were very vocal about ignoring one (1) video button on top of the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted September 25, 2014 Share #34 Posted September 25, 2014 I love the idea, but if it uses the m240 sensor, it just seems silly to invest in technology that will probably be updated in another year. I beg to differ. The M concept is not an easy one to update. What they actually did starting with the M8 was adding a sensor and a progressively increasing amount of whistles and bells. This camera actually removes the whistles and bells and goes back to its almost purest form, an automatic/manual camera that has a sensor instead of film (and 24MP are more than enough), so there's nothing left to worry about updates. So far I haven't seen anyone worrying about M7 updates... Cheers, Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterpronk Posted September 25, 2014 Share #35 Posted September 25, 2014 I beg to differ. The M concept is not an easy one to update. What they actually did starting with the M8 was adding a sensor and a progressively increasing amount of whistles and bells.This camera actually removes the whistles and bells and goes back to its almost purest form, an automatic/manual camera that has a sensor instead of film (and 24MP are more than enough), so there's nothing left to worry about updates. So far I haven't seen anyone worrying about M7 updates... Cheers, Bruno Well I think most here do expect an update to the digital M in 2015. And I'm certainly not interested in the updated bells and whistles but I personally wouldn't like to put 6000 into a new camera and then see the new M with a better sensor in the shops within the year. The reality (still) is that the digital world differs from the film world in that camera's do get updated frequently and do still improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 25, 2014 Share #36 Posted September 25, 2014 This thread reminds me in a rather general way of similar threads following the introduction of the M (Typ 240). I might be mistaken' date=' but it seems that some who argue here that you can ignore all of a screen, six buttons, a cross-action control and a thumb wheel were very vocal about ignoring one (1) video button on top of the camera. [/quote'] Who said anything about ignoring the screen? It's only about not chimping. And the problem with the video button in the beginning was that it couldn't be disabled prior to the firmware update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Pandorf Posted September 25, 2014 Share #37 Posted September 25, 2014 What I see is the possibility now that they have the hardware (lack of EVF in top case) and firmware (reprogrammed Movie button) to have an "M-E" version of a stripped down version of the M240 (with or without the LCD). Some of us have no desire to shoot video or use lens adapters on a camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bephoto Posted September 26, 2014 Share #38 Posted September 26, 2014 a cheaper lcd-less M240 for street photography and pimped up M240 with grip and shit for studio. I'm all for it. phone/tablet control is the best solution in that case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted September 27, 2014 Share #39 Posted September 27, 2014 I don't think lack of a screen is a problem to be solved for the fans of blind shooting. So, no EVF, no wifi. Problem for me is then the macro adapter becomes useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Pandorf Posted September 27, 2014 Share #40 Posted September 27, 2014 Problem for me is then the macro adapter becomes useless. Then buy the standard M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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