jamriman Posted September 27, 2014 Share #41 Posted September 27, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Then buy the standard M240. I have one. Thanks for your valuable input. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 Hi jamriman, Take a look here M 60 - regular production?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
NJH Posted September 27, 2014 Share #42 Posted September 27, 2014 I still don't get why I should dispense with all the features the LCD provides unless the camera was thinned back to M7 depth. Yes even if the mount had to protrude. The lens mount is irrelevant to gripping the camera. That has been my thoughts since shooting with the M6 or M7. Its only half the ergonomics though as one then also needs something akin to the film advance lever to hook the thumb behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 27, 2014 Share #43 Posted September 27, 2014 Theres always a Thumbs up for those who feel the need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJH Posted September 27, 2014 Share #44 Posted September 27, 2014 Didn't need it with the film cameras though Its an opinion some will not like but I have always felt that the digital M bodies are more form other function compared to the film bodies i.e. tried to much to keep them looking the same even though the technology is very different. The M240 though did at least introduce a small bump on the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 28, 2014 Share #45 Posted September 28, 2014 Digital Ms have been slippery like soap bars since the beginning eight years ago and the little bump of the M240 doesn't change a lot to that. I would have never bought my M8.2 and M240 bodies if Thumbs Ups had not been available then. Now with Thumbs Ups on i prefer their ergonomics to that of my film Ms aside from the smaller size and weight of the latters. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpwhite Posted September 28, 2014 Share #46 Posted September 28, 2014 I would jump at an M60, except for two practical shortcomings... no strap, and rolling back to the days of wide bracketing with fingers crossed. So, according to this thread, a production model is a real possibility and would include the practical feature of strap lugs! But which kind of M240 lugs? The good ones, or the version that were included with my M240 in early 2013? Why can't Leica incorporate a small histogram to be projected where the red exposure indicators illuminate? The histogram does not need to be large... just enough to see if you are capturing the meat of zones with no blowout. If this information is available, then no review function is needed. Pressing the "movie button" for < 500ms could illuminate the histogram, 500 > 1000ms for battery, and > 1000ms for remaining storage. How many of us would buy this body, even if it were positioned as a premium-priced, less-is-more, nostalgia is always expensive model? I would! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 28, 2014 Share #47 Posted September 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would jump at an M60, except for two practical shortcomings... no strap, and rolling back to the days of wide bracketing with fingers crossed. So, according to this thread, a production model is a real possibility and would include the practical feature of strap lugs! But which kind of M240 lugs? The good ones, or the version that were included with my M240 in early 2013? Why can't Leica incorporate a small histogram to be projected where the red exposure indicators illuminate? The histogram does not need to be large... just enough to see if you are capturing the meat of zones with no blowout. If this information is available, then no review function is needed. Pressing the "movie button" for < 500ms could illuminate the histogram, 500 > 1000ms for battery, and > 1000ms for remaining storage. How many of us would buy this body, even if it were positioned as a premium-priced, less-is-more, nostalgia is always expensive model? I would! I'd be very happy with an M60 with proper strap lugs, timer (I don't think it has one), and mini-histogram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted September 28, 2014 Share #48 Posted September 28, 2014 What if they were to expand the M60 concept so that the EVF could plug into it? That way it could function as a rudimentary screen for when the LCD is really necessary, for image review, and for advanced configuration, but for general day to day shooting it is left at home..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 28, 2014 Share #49 Posted September 28, 2014 What if they were to expand the M60 concept so that the EVF could plug into it? That way it could function as a rudimentary screen for when the LCD is really necessary, for image review, and for advanced configuration, but for general day to day shooting it is left at home..... I'm not really sure that having an optical rangefinder, and adding an electronic viewfinder as a clip on really fits with anyone's definition of reductionism. I'd add an LCD before I did that ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted September 28, 2014 Share #50 Posted September 28, 2014 I'm not really sure that having an optical rangefinder, and adding an electronic viewfinder as a clip on really fits with anyone's definition of reductionism. I'd add an LCD before I did that ... Well for those that want the reductionism, they needn't buy the optional EVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 28, 2014 Share #51 Posted September 28, 2014 5mm slimmer and $1000 cheaper than an M240 and I would buy one. Otherwise I can continue to use the lcd as I do with all my digitals: rarely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted September 28, 2014 Share #52 Posted September 28, 2014 I'd be very happy with an M60 with proper strap lugs, timer (I don't think it has one), and mini-histogram. You might want the possibility of using a cable release as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Pandorf Posted September 28, 2014 Share #53 Posted September 28, 2014 You might want the possibility of using a cable release as well. I think the whole idea of a stripped down M240/M60 is a camera you're not going to be mounting on a tripod, nor worried about a lens wider than 28mm, but as simple as you can have in a digital M rangefinder as a walk around camera. Those that want video, use of R lenses (or others), want the EVF option can still have today's "standard m240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 28, 2014 Share #54 Posted September 28, 2014 What about adding the T lugs on this M60? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Pandorf Posted September 28, 2014 Share #55 Posted September 28, 2014 What about adding the T lugs on this M60? That was talked about in the Reddot video interview with Stephan Daniels. If I remember correctly, Stephan said it probably was not possible from an engineering standpoint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted September 28, 2014 Share #56 Posted September 28, 2014 From the latest interview with Mr Daniel: Leica is "seriously considering" to take the M60 into regular production, with straplugs... I hope not.. I was trying to take a timeout from GAS... That would be most welcome! And in Monochrom too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted September 28, 2014 Share #57 Posted September 28, 2014 I could see a Monochrom version of this camera (especially if thinner) as being appealing to those seeking a digital M in a more film M package/experience. In fact, that would have made more sense to me as an anniversary edition. Jeff Even better - could they have this camera with switchable sensor...Monochrom / Color / Next generation ones? That would certainly command a premium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 28, 2014 Share #58 Posted September 28, 2014 I still don't get why I should dispense with all the features the LCD provides unless the camera was thinned back to M7 depth. Yes even if the mount had to protrude. The lens mount is irrelevant to gripping the camera. Otherwise I turn off auto review and ignore the LCD aside from menus just as I do with every digital camera I own or have owned. . The M7 is 138x79.5x38 (same as M6TTL) The M240 is 138.6x80x42 Hardly any difference. It's really overblown Additionally the focus plane of the film cameras was near the back of the camera (where the film was) whereas the digital Ms need a circuit board and electronics to the rear. Thus I think Leica has done a pretty good job with the 240, even more so given the now massive battery Rgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJH Posted September 28, 2014 Share #59 Posted September 28, 2014 I have an M6 & M8 also had an M7. The difference looks and feels huge when compared directly, I measured the thickness of the two top plates before with engineering calipers and will do the same again tomorrow and post it here. I also weighed all my bodies as well with the surprising result that the M7 was much heavier than either my M6 or M8, ISTR 80+ g heavier than the M6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 29, 2014 Share #60 Posted September 29, 2014 You might want the possibility of using a cable release as well. Thanks. I had mentioned that in an earlier post. An oversight to leave it out of the post above.. I often use cable releases and would not want a Leica M without one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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