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  1. 1. Leica M Edition 60 - What's your opinion?

    • Would have bought the special edition. Too bad it's sold out.
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    • As regular model for a reasonable price, please!
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    • Regular model, please. But with a slimmer housing.
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    • I like the approach but I'm not going to buy one.
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    • A digital camera without display doesn't make sense.
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    • Leica is completely mad if they offer such a camera.
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The ISO setting covers a range of ISO 200 – 6400 in 1/3 ISO increments, and thus enables you to adapt the shutter speed/aperture values to the relevant situation as required. The setting is made using the adjusting dial on the rear of the camera. Turn it until the index point is aligned with the required value on the scale. 

On this camera, exposure metering for the available ambient light is carried out through the lens with the working aperture (same as M9). The light reflected by a bright shutter diaphragm blade in the first shutter curtain is measured. 

This camera stores picture data in uncompressed DNG format. Adobe® RGB is used as the color space. White balance is carried out automatically. (Having DNG raw files only as output white balance is irrelevant)

There is a function button which can be used to set-up time and date

Sd card have to be formatted using a computer

Language setting is meaningless, there are no menù items to be displaied (and no display)

This is not a LV camera, histogram and virtual horizon are not available

How do you set lens detection for older and/or non-coded lenses - or is that not possible?

 

The absence of the movie button/mode is a definite step in the right direction; this so-called "feature" it is utter nonsense on rangefinder cameras of this caliber.   Having this turd perched atop a sublime piece of machinery like the M240/M-P/Safari is like a cold sore the size of a nickel on the pouting mouth of a supermodel.

 

The M60 is a beautiful camera and does have its disciples, but being stuck with auto white balance, formatting SD cards outside of the camera and no strap lugs  would be deal breakers for me. 

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. . . but being stuck with auto white balance, formatting SD cards outside of the camera and no strap lugs  would be deal breakers for me.

 

White balance is irrelevant as the camera only shoots RAW DNG files.

 

The camera formats the card for you automatically as soon as you insert it and switch the camera on.

 

If a production version were to arrive, I'm sure it would have strap lugs.

 

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No, to format a card a compuer utility and a card reader are required.

 

 

Not quite.

 

The card is formatted in camera, you just have to delete downloaded images on your computer.  It's simply a case of selecting the option to delete following download.  The format is set by the camera ...

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Not quite.

 

The card is formatted in camera, you just have to delete downloaded images on your computer.  It's simply a case of selecting the option to delete following download.  The format is set by the camera ...

May be we are giving to the term "formatting" a different meaning. This is what the M60 Instruction Manual says about formatting : It is recommended that the memory card be reformatted from time to time, as fragmentation occurs when deleting, which can block some of the memory capacity. " 

This obviously cannot be done inside M60.

I normally use the SD Formatter utility provided by SD Association and I prefer formatting a card instead of just deleting files (once I am sure to have sufficient backups).

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I knew I forgot to mention something in the reviews, so I'll explain because there's no mention of formatting as such in the manual, or for that matter, on the web. :)

 

When I tested the Leica X and sent the camera back, I simply took the card out and bunged it back in my bag.

 

Then when the M60 arrived (and after I'd stopped shaking), I put the card in the camera and took some quick test shots (the dog).

 

Then the card went in the reader and surprisingly, not only were the test shots there, but also my original 'X' images.

 

It was then that I thought 'hang on a minute, how do you format this thing?'

 

So I formatted the card in windows and then put it back in the camera, switched it on and the little LED on the back flashed for a bit.

 

I then put the card back in the card reader and hey presto the card showed 'Leica', 'DCIM' etc

 

Thinking 'ok the camera formats automatically' I was concerned what would happen if you took the card out and then back in with images on it that you wanted to keep. Obviously the camera wiping the card each time when you remove and insert would be a disaster.

 

Up shot is that if the card is already formatted with a Leica 'pattern' (or possibly any other?), it leaves well alone.

 

Hope this long winded explanation helps.

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It is crazy expensive, granted. But there is something that is almost liberating when you pick up the camera and realise that it does not have a gazillion different LCD menu items, plus various digital buttons, and other auto functions and settings to navigate and learn.

 

Yes it is substantially limited in all of its 'auto' functions (except auto shutter on aperture priority) but the output settings are really the same as any other camera (i.e. shutter speed, aperture, ISO, and focus - I will ignore the entirley digitally created options such as HDR). There is legitimate enjoyment to be had in flying with full manual controls - so to speak.

 

Not being able to immediately preview each image is also a mixed pleasure. Yes, a bunch of shots that would have otherwise been re-shot (if the situation allowed) might be deleted back home - but again, there is legitimate enjoyment in not knowing how the pictures will turn out until they are 'developed' after your outing is complete. It also means you are never ever distracted by your just shot images - your head is kept engaged with your real environment because your eyes are not magnetised by the LCD screen.

 

It is also a very attractive camera.

 

Agree its overpriced, and agree its no use at all for any commercial photography purposes.

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Not being able to immediately preview each image is also a mixed pleasure. Yes, a bunch of shots that would have otherwise been re-shot (if the situation allowed) might be deleted back home - but again, there is legitimate enjoyment in not knowing how the pictures will turn out until they are 'developed' after your outing is complete. It also means you are never ever distracted by your just shot images - your head is kept engaged with your real environment because your eyes are not magnetised by the LCD screen.

 

Which is of course possible with nearly every other digital camera - simply set it to RAW only and turn off/tape over the LCD :)

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Hi Leica fanatic. Glad you are enjoying your M60. I know I am loving mine. My only complaints are the lack of lug nuts and the weight. I don't like using cases so going to use the tripod mount for a strap.

 

One question about firmware... will it be updated for new lenses? I have seen a new m240 firmware update come out but none for the m60.

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Hi Leica fanatic. Glad you are enjoying your M60. I know I am loving mine. My only complaints are the lack of lug nuts and the weight. I don't like using cases so going to use the tripod mount for a strap.

 

One question about firmware... will it be updated for new lenses? I have seen a new m240 firmware update come out but none for the m60.

Cheers but it's not my M60, it's Leica's.

 

As for the firmware the best thing is to email Leica in Germany with your suggestions or requests.

 

They are one of that rare breed of companies that actually listen to their customers.

 

It's alright, they won't bite. :D

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I'm very close to pull the trigger for an M60.

Yes, they are still around, not sold out as was mentioned a few months ago.

One concern I have however: is there any possibility to check pics when you are not in front of your PC? 

I assume that the EyeFi cards will not work through the stainless steel cover?

Anyway transferring DNG's will take a lot of time.

Any practical idea?

 

John

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I'm very close to pull the trigger for an M60.

Yes, they are still around, not sold out as was mentioned a few months ago.

One concern I have however: is there any possibility to check pics when you are not in front of your PC? 

I assume that the EyeFi cards will not work through the stainless steel cover?

Anyway transferring DNG's will take a lot of time.

Any practical idea?

 

John

Let me dwell on this a minute. You want a camera with no LCD screen but you want to check the pictures immediately. 

 

 

Okay. I thought about it. My head hurts now.

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Let me dwell on this a minute. You want a camera with no LCD screen but you want to check the pictures immediately. 

 

 

Okay. I thought about it. My head hurts now.

 

Can send you an online aspirin :-)

Well, there might be exceptional cases to check  quickly focus.

I agree that in normal cases the first view would be at home at the Mac!

But I do not have my Mac with me all the time (hotels, traveling, etc).

Just to clarify...

John

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