colmac Posted October 22, 2014 Share #101 Posted October 22, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Herewith the response I received from Wetzlar via a reliable contact. "……kannst du sagen, dass das alte Summarit auch eine Asphäre hatte. Es war (und ist) bei den Summariten aber das Einzige mit Asphäre." „…… the old Summarit (35mm, f2.5) also had an aspheric (element). In the Summarit range it (35mm) was (and is) the only one with an aspheric (element). Note the above is not an official statement but simply an answer to my query. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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r7photo Posted October 25, 2014 Share #102 Posted October 25, 2014 Where are sample pics from new version?, also is older 35 summarit better than current 35 crom as appears older version has better bokeh Considering buying a 35, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted October 25, 2014 Share #103 Posted October 25, 2014 I own a 240, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted October 26, 2014 Share #104 Posted October 26, 2014 Old one also has ASPH element of you look at the double focus things you only see on ASPH lenses. Don't know how to explain it but sometimes you get some ghosting of subjects and I only see that on ASPH. element lenses. Jip, I was considering a Summarit to complement my Summicron 35 version 1 that exhibits quite some ghosting. As well the Rokkor-40 I have has that. So choosing a lens that still has that 'feature' [some call it the Leica glow, if I am correct] would make little sense to me. Then I'ld rather go for the C-Biogon. How bad is this really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 26, 2014 Share #105 Posted October 26, 2014 I don't know for jip but my Summarit 35/2.5 doesn't show more glow than ghosting i must say. It is simply an excellent modern lens but i find the Biogon 35/2.8 even better. If you like contrasty lenses i mean as the Summarit is a bit more gentle from this standpoint. But the Summarit is softer in borders and corners than the Biogon and the latter is even less prone to flare which is quite an achievement. You can go wrong with neither lens anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted October 28, 2014 Share #106 Posted October 28, 2014 ... that 'feature' [some call it the Leica glow, if I am correct] ... Most just confuse some sort of veiling glare with 'the Leica glow.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted October 28, 2014 Share #107 Posted October 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Most just confuse some sort of veiling glare with 'the Leica glow.' 01af, Where can I get an authoritative insight? I think that a lot of "old glass" has moved internally well beyond initial tolerances, so what we see in artifacts is not due to the design itself but to a bad shape and state of the lens as it came to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted December 11, 2014 Share #108 Posted December 11, 2014 So... At the end the "old" 35 Summarit is an ASPH design too? I'm tempted to buy one instead of Summicron ASPH, like 700€ more in my pocket. I don't think You notice at f2.8 or f8 differences between them, let's say looking at 12x16" print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted December 11, 2014 Share #109 Posted December 11, 2014 So... At the end the "old" 35 Summarit is an ASPH design too? I'm tempted to buy one instead of Summicron ASPH, like 700€ more in my pocket. I don't think You notice at f2.8 or f8 differences between them, let's say looking at 12x16" print. Yes the old one was already ASPH. they just didn't tell it on the lens barrel, Leica has done this before, also with the Leica Vario-Elmar-R 1:4/35-70 Macro that lens has asph. surfaces just like it's more expensive brother the Leica Vario-Elmarit-R 1:2,8/35-70 Macro ASPH. They probably do this to get you to buy the more expensive version... but since they upped the price of the Summarit line significantly it no longer matters. It's still the budget line, but the prices are getting so close to the Summicron's that I no longer see the whole point of the line anyway. Especially now that they build them in Germany... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted December 12, 2014 Share #110 Posted December 12, 2014 Funny lot of people reviewing in the past the summarit and saying their opinions talking how difference was the summarit to the Summicron ASPH due to the NON ASPH design... [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 12, 2014 Share #111 Posted December 12, 2014 For my sins I have owned three 35 ASPH Summicrons and also have the 35 Summarit. They are all good but if I was buying again from scratch I'd buy the Summicron. IMO it is the perfect all round Leica lens and arguably the only lens you ever need (if you like a 35mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted December 12, 2014 Share #112 Posted December 12, 2014 I find not so funny and easy and useful to use lenses above 35mm on a rangefinder. If I want head shot or portrait, Hassy, Rollei or any DSLR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 12, 2014 Share #113 Posted December 12, 2014 I find not so funny and easy and useful to use lenses above 35mm on a rangefinder. If I want head shot or portrait, Hassy, Rollei or any DSLR. Agreed. That's why we need a hybrid viewfinder in the next model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 12, 2014 Share #114 Posted December 12, 2014 Agreed. That's why we need a hybrid viewfinder in the next model. It's a hybrid viewfinder now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted December 12, 2014 Share #115 Posted December 12, 2014 Agreed. That's why we need a hybrid viewfinder in the next model. "We" do not need anything of the sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruniroquai Posted December 13, 2014 Share #116 Posted December 13, 2014 No please, no hybrid monster. Rangefinder is the perfect tool for street, documental or an unobtrusive camera. Fast and beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 13, 2014 Share #117 Posted December 13, 2014 No please, no hybrid monster. Rangefinder is the perfect tool for street, documental or an unobtrusive camera. Fast and beautiful. I agree with the no hybrid, if that is going to be a proper EVF that can also simulate a RF. That should be possible with a sensor with phase-detection elements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coreystevens88 Posted December 21, 2014 Share #118 Posted December 21, 2014 Anyone else gotten their hands on these yet? Considering the 50mm to shoot on my M3. The new silver lenses look great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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