MarkP Posted October 6, 2014 Share #121  Posted October 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Lloyd is not exactly in love with Leica Inc and visa versa, so I would take his claims of selling a Leica lens for a Zeiss with a grain of salt, so to speak. Doesn't mean it is isn't a good lens, and I am very interested in buying it myself, but his is not a voice I trust as being impartial. IMHO. He's shown a strong bias for Zeiss over Leica for a long time, not that he doesn't praise the occasional Leica lens or that the new ZM 1.4/35 isn't better than the 35 Summiux FLE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Hi MarkP, Take a look here Zeiss has a new 35mm 1.4 ZM. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
CheshireCat Posted October 6, 2014 Share #122 Â Posted October 6, 2014 Lloyd is not exactly in love with Leica Inc and visa versa, so I would take his claims of selling a Leica lens for a Zeiss with a grain of salt, so to speak. Doesn't mean it is isn't a good lens, and I am very interested in buying it myself, but his is not a voice I trust as being impartial. IMHO Â So you only trust someone as being impartial if he is in love with Leica... Quite an interesting concept of impartial... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gberger Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share #123 Â Posted October 6, 2014 Since I'm a film-only guy (and still have about 40 rolls of Astia in the freezer), I'm not going to pass judgement until I see some slides on a color-corrected light table, via my 6x Schneider asph loupe, and some glass-mounted slides projected onto a matte screen. Â I guess I'm of the "Steve Huff" school, viz., let's see some real-world examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted October 6, 2014 Share #124 Â Posted October 6, 2014 I guess I'm of the "Steve Huff" school, viz., let's see some real-world examples. Â Diglloyd school is the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 7, 2014 Share #125 Â Posted October 7, 2014 Ken Rockwell's imput would be appreciated in this top match of photography gurus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted October 7, 2014 Share #126 Â Posted October 7, 2014 Is Lloyd the only one who had a chance to test this Zeiss Llens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted October 7, 2014 Share #127 Â Posted October 7, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well...... for someone like me that doesn't use 35mm a lot the Leica 35 FLE is a lot of cash to cough up for a fast wide angle lens ...... Â This solution looks perfect to me........ and the lens is not big ...... just bigger than some others. In the value for money stakes it looks a winner. Â I have a silver on order and surprisingly was told my dealer is expecting stock fairly soon and not the 'later in the year' times quoted elsewhere. As they are a big Zeiss seller I presume they have the correct info .... we will see...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 7, 2014 Share #128 Â Posted October 7, 2014 the lens is not big ...... just bigger than some others ... than some other 90's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted October 7, 2014 Share #129 Â Posted October 7, 2014 Ken Rockwell's imput would be appreciated in this top match of photography gurus. Â ..... err .... who will no doubt say that the lens is great but that a true 'Leica Man' will settle for nothing less that the 35/1.4 FLE....... Â I could write the review myself for him without even trying the lens ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted October 7, 2014 Share #130  Posted October 7, 2014 Well...... for someone like me that doesn't use 35mm a lot the Leica 35 FLE is a lot of cash to cough up for a fast wide angle lens ...... This solution looks perfect to me........ and the lens is not big ...... just bigger than some others. In the value for money stakes it looks a winner.  I have a silver on order and surprisingly was told my dealer is expecting stock fairly soon and not the 'later in the year' times quoted elsewhere. As they are a big Zeiss seller I presume they have the correct info .... we will see......  I haven't seen any information about Zeiss and Leica relative manufacturing size, my guess is that Zeiss is larger, anyone know?  ..... err .... who will no doubt say that the lens is great but that a true 'Leica Man' will settle for nothing less that the 35/1.4 FLE....... I could write the review myself for him without even trying the lens ......  Please do this, I think it would be of value (and fun) for us who have orders and waiting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 7, 2014 Share #131 Â Posted October 7, 2014 I could write the review myself for him without even trying the lens I should have put an emoticon to my post above but i do like photography gurus you can trust me . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted October 7, 2014 Share #132 Â Posted October 7, 2014 Lloyd is not exactly in love with Leica Inc and visa versa, so I would take his claims of selling a Leica lens for a Zeiss with a grain of salt, so to speak. Doesn't mean it is isn't a good lens, and I am very interested in buying it myself, but his is not a voice I trust as being impartial. IMHO Â While Lloyd Chambers may not be a fan of 'Leica Inc', a careful read of his studied reviews would show that he heaps great praise on Leica glass when deserved, despite the unabashed Zeiss rendering preference. Remember too that his style of shooting involves more landscape work than most of us indulge in, and a heavier reliance upon live view and tripods so his preferences and sensitivity to flatter field curvature, pin-point focus accuracy and minimal focus shift are accordingly weighted. Sean Reid's work is more reportage-style/street/events and his technical observations may better suit M users (rarely at variance with Lloyd's findings, BTW--I subscribe to both sites). Sean's bias, if one can be discerned, seems toward appreciating the real value of Voigtlander glass. Perhaps something a hardened Rockwellian 'Leica Man' might dismiss out-of-hand. Â As for Rockwell, he doesn't take himself too seriously, why should anyone else? His 'Leica Man' entries were amusing, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
genefama Posted October 7, 2014 Share #133 Â Posted October 7, 2014 I might have missed a post but has Sean Reid weighed in on the Zeiss 35? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmuussoni Posted October 7, 2014 Share #134  Posted October 7, 2014 While Lloyd Chambers may not be a fan of 'Leica Inc', a careful read of his studied reviews would show that he heaps great praise on Leica glass when deserved, despite the unabashed Zeiss rendering preference. Remember too that his style of shooting involves more landscape work than most of us indulge in, and a heavier reliance upon live view and tripods so his preferences and sensitivity to flatter field curvature, pin-point focus accuracy and minimal focus shift are accordingly weighted. Sean Reid's work is more reportage-style/street/events and his technical observations may better suit M users (rarely at variance with Lloyd's findings, BTW--I subscribe to both sites). Sean's bias, if one can be discerned, seems toward appreciating the real value of Voigtlander glass. Perhaps something a hardened Rockwellian 'Leica Man' might dismiss out-of-hand. As for Rockwell, he doesn't take himself too seriously, why should anyone else? His 'Leica Man' entries were amusing, though.  Very well said and I agree how you reviewed the reviewers  Anyway, I am looking forward for the new Zeiss. 35 FLE is my on list of lenses to get, but I also realize it's weaknesses - in some circumstances harsh bokeh and extreme price. So I don't see any problems Zeiss potentially surpassing 35 FLE's performance. I am mainly concerned about the size of the new Distagon - I wish I had a chance to hold one on my hands to see for myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted October 7, 2014 Share #135 Â Posted October 7, 2014 Sean's bias, if one can be discerned, seems toward appreciating the real value of Voigtlander glass. Â Not to mention red peppers, cows and tomatoes. :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted October 8, 2014 Share #136 Â Posted October 8, 2014 As a point of reference. I prefer my reviewers to show no bias towards any one manufacturer. I am not looking for validation but information. In the end, I will go and try the lens and see for myself. As I noted, I am rooting for it as it is something I am biased to buy. But we will see when it arrives and we can have a thread showing your shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted October 10, 2014 Share #137  Posted October 10, 2014 It is compact compared to the FE mount version which was announced yesterday as well. It's the third lens from the left. Absolutely enourmous. About the same size as the 24-240 powerzoom on the far left. What the eff!!: [ATTACH]457630[/ATTACH]  Is this Sony's design with with Zeiss's approval for Zeiss label？like Panasonic designed lens for Lumix that carries Leica brand name? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 11, 2014 Share #138  Posted October 11, 2014 I've calculated lens volume (cubic cm) assuming simple cylinders and using the maximum diameters in the lens specs, and took about 13mm off the specified length of the Zeiss (looking at the photos of the lens the lens extends back from the flange to a similar extent to the Leica lens. So:  35 Summilux ~113 cc 35 ZM ~ 164cc  This is a much bigger lens. Having said that I am interested in giving it a test drive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted October 11, 2014 Share #139  Posted October 11, 2014 Weight may also be an interesting factor:  35 Lux 328g 35/1.4 ZM 381g  Zeiss is 16% heavier, therefore not a much heavier lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 11, 2014 Share #140 Â Posted October 11, 2014 This is a much bigger lens. Having said that I am interested in giving it a test drive. Â Real pics, and prints, of course provide the real test. Â For those who like stats, though, Zeiss lenses tend to compare well to Leica counterparts, except for the size issue, as Puts shows in this comparison of 50mm lenses. As he says, it's a lot tougher to produce technically stellar results in a small package. Whether one prefers the rendering is another issue. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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