Pre-APO Summicron-R 90 -- weight difference between versions

[alan.y]

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On the wiki the weight of this lens is given as 560 grams.

 

Is the later version with the embedded, non-telescoping hood lighter than the previous ones?

 

Thank you.

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[wildlightphoto]

The early pre-APO 90 'cron-R (two-piece hood) is 560 grams, the late (one-piece hood) pre-APO 90 'cron-R is 520 grams.

[lct]

Both v1 (11219) and v2 (11254) Summicron-R 90/2 weigh 560g according to my Leitz documentation. I have no experience with the v2 though.

Edit: 520g is the Apo-Summicron-R 90/2 (11350).

Edited August 17, 2014 by lct

[alan.y]

$2500 / 40 grams = $60 / gram > price of gold.

[lct]

The Apo-R is only 20g heavier but 19mm shorter than its M counterpart. Would be great on a R10 but the need for an adapter would ruin the size argument on the M240 i guess.

Edited August 17, 2014 by lct

[farnz]

The Apo-R is only 20g heavier but 19mm shorter than its M counterpart. Would be great on a R10 but the need for an adapter would ruin the size argument on the M240 i guess.

It's surprisingly compact on the M240 with M-R and in my opinion seemed more compact even with the M/R adaptor than its sister lens the 90/2 APO-Summicron-M asph. (But then having to use the EVF for the R version makes it less desirable on the M.)

 

Pete.

[lct]

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Being apparently the same lens i would have thought that the length of the apo-R + adapter is roughly (or perhaps exactly) the same as that of the apo-M alone but i don't own the former so i rely on you my friend. I have not the pre-apo M and R with me here but i will compare them out of curosity when i'm back home.

[alan.y]

It's surprisingly compact on the M240 with M-R and in my opinion seemed more compact even with the M/R adaptor than its sister lens the 90/2 APO-Summicron-M asph. (But then having to use the EVF for the R version makes it less desirable on the M.)

 

Pete.

 

I find the same with the R 80 vs the M 75. The R at 700 grams is almost 200 grams heavier than my v3 German M 75, which is 520 grams, but the former feels better in hand because it's fatter and has more even weight distribution--less front heavy. Actually the R 80 is probably my favorite lens as an object to hold and, alas, fondle! The added articulation of an adapter also makes the lens seem more compact--your eye associates the adapter with the camera, not the lens.

 

If I were to get the M version again I'd pick the first version without built-in hood.

 

Having had the APO M 90, pre-APO M 90 v3, and R90 v2 e55, I think I'd probably feel the same about the 90's... Too bad the APO R is so much of a collector's item.

Edited August 17, 2014 by alanjung

[lct]

I have no experience with 11254 but AFAIK:
• 11219 is the early version with 2-piece built-in hood, E55 or Series 7 filters
• 11254 is the late version with 1-piece built-in hood, E55 filters
Both have the same optics AFAIK but i may be wrong.

11219:

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11254:

Edited March 10, 2021 by lct