jaques Posted July 12, 2014 Share #201 Posted July 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am not sure if this is a bug as such, but since the fw upgrade if the camera is set to manual lens selection the shutter does not close automatically if you remove a lens. I made the mistake of taking a lens off and sitting the camera down on a table for a few minutes. As the shutter was open and the camera was on the sensor seems to have statically 'sucked' a huge amount of dust onto itself. The next few shots I took had thousands of dust particles. It all blew off pretty easily... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Hi jaques, Take a look here Remaining/new bugs in FW 2.0.1.5. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ayewing Posted July 12, 2014 Share #202 Posted July 12, 2014 I have not noticed this as I normally switch the camera off before changing lenses. According to the Leica M instruction book you should switch off before removing or attaching a lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 12, 2014 Share #203 Posted July 12, 2014 The distinction is important: If there is a bug you only need to demonstrate its existence and an engineer will try to eradicate it. If there is a feature you despise it doesn’t suffice to point out it exists; an engineer would just nod his head and assure you that that is indeed how it’s supposed to work. You have to convince him that it would be far better if the camera behaved differently. Anything else would get you nowhere. In either case, that engineer should be replaced by someone smarter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 12, 2014 Share #204 Posted July 12, 2014 In either case, that engineer should be replaced by someone smarter in which case, you will run out of engineers rather faster than you will run out of bugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted July 12, 2014 Share #205 Posted July 12, 2014 Over-exposure warning on the camera's display doesn't work as expected. When the over-exposure highlighting threshold is set to 255 then you'd expect red blinking in those areas of the picture that have an 8-bit value of 255... not so. As a matter of fact, nothing will blink, no matter how severe the over-exposure of the the capture is. When setting the threshold to 254 then only the edges of the over-exposed areas will blink red ... which is almost imperceptible on the camera display. In fact, the over-exposure highlighting feature won't work unless the threshold is set to 253 or less. That's a bug. I don't know if this bug also existed in the previous firmware, too. When the highlight warning threshold is set to a value of x, then all areas equal to or greater than x (in 8-bit terms) should blink red. By the way, the same should hold for the under-exposure warning threshold. If that value is set to y then then all areas equal to or less than y (in 8-bit terms) should blink blue. So while this bug isn't fixed, I shall set my over- and under-exposure warning thresholds to 3 and 253, respectively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 12, 2014 Share #206 Posted July 12, 2014 Over-exposure warning on the camera's display doesn't work as expected. This feature has been mentioned here before and seems to pre-date the current software version. I do not think it's something to get het about, as the loss in gamut is something like 2 per cent. That's only a small fraction of a zone. I would like to see a picture where this reduction in gamut becomes visible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 12, 2014 Share #207 Posted July 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) But it should be on Leica's to-do list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 12, 2014 Share #208 Posted July 12, 2014 in which case, you will run out of engineers rather faster than you will run out of bugs. How can I run out of engineers if I replace N dumb engineers with N smart ones ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted July 12, 2014 Share #209 Posted July 12, 2014 I don't know if this bug also existed in the previous firmware, too. It did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 12, 2014 Share #210 Posted July 12, 2014 How can I run out of engineers if I replace N dumb engineers with N smart ones ? Smart engineers will make mistakes, too. In fact, they will make more mistakes than dumb ones. Once you hire an engineer, he will take an appreciable amount of time to become productive. A smart one will start with some glorious mistakes and you would therefore fire him before he becomes productive. Hence, you will suffer a shortage of engineers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chmilar Posted July 12, 2014 Share #211 Posted July 12, 2014 I am not sure if this is a bug as such, but since the fw upgrade if the camera is set to manual lens selection the shutter does not close automatically if you remove a lens. On the old firmware, people complained that their LTM adapters were causing the 240 to say "no lens attached", where the M9 and M8 do not. I suspect that this was due to the M240 using lens detection to protect the shutter during live view lens changes. This is not an issue for cameras without live view. One feature on the new firmware is that all LTM adapters now work. This might be due to Leica changing the firmware to ignore the lens detection for manual selection, so it must leave the shutter open in live view (ie. it cannot determine between a lens removal or an LTM adapter in use). It is a choice between making all adapters work, or protecting the sensor during lens change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 13, 2014 Share #212 Posted July 13, 2014 Once you hire an engineer, he will take an appreciable amount of time to become productive. A smart one will start with some glorious mistakes and you would therefore fire him before he becomes productive. Hence, you will suffer a shortage of engineers. Even if your generalization about engineers were true, I would still be replacing dumb engineers with smart ones. The way I discern between dumb and smart engineers is not only based on the number of mistakes they make. In any case, I much prefer to suffer a shortage of smart engineers than abundance of dumb engineers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 13, 2014 Share #213 Posted July 13, 2014 Better to suffer an abundance of dumb engineers than lawyers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woorob Posted July 13, 2014 Share #214 Posted July 13, 2014 Better to suffer an abundance of dumb lawyers than doctors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 13, 2014 Share #215 Posted July 13, 2014 Better to suffer an abundance of dumb lawyers than doctors. Hey, when did we ever make your wife a living hell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 13, 2014 Share #216 Posted July 13, 2014 Oops, Freudian slip. I meant to say, "life." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 13, 2014 Share #217 Posted July 13, 2014 Even if your generalization about engineers were true, I would still be replacing dumb engineers with smart ones. The way I discern between dumb and smart engineers is not only based on the number of mistakes they make. In any case, I much prefer to suffer a shortage of smart engineers than abundance of dumb engineers. At least dumb Engineers would be able to write down or type the necessary code. I have met plenty of smart Engineers* during my career and while many of them were very nicely dressed they were not necessarily competent Engineers. Pete. *Not so-called software engineers but Professional Engineers such as Civil Engineers, Structural Engineers, Mechanical Engineers etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 13, 2014 Share #218 Posted July 13, 2014 I have met plenty of smart Engineers* during my career and while many of them were very nicely dressed they were not necessarily competent Engineers. Agreed. By experience, there is a "mysterious" inversely proportional relationship between how smart an engineer is and how nicely he is dressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 13, 2014 Share #219 Posted July 13, 2014 Define "Dumb";) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 13, 2014 Share #220 Posted July 13, 2014 Define "Dumb";) Not having the ability to speak. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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