Guest Nick932 Posted May 29, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My brand new M came with spots on the sensor. Would you return/exchange the camera or you would have Leica to clean the sensor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdlaing Posted May 29, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 29, 2014 My brand new M came with spots on the sensor. Would you return/exchange the camera or you would have Leica to clean the sensor? If you're near a Leica Store have them do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica1215 Posted May 29, 2014 Share #3 Posted May 29, 2014 agree, have the leica store clean the sensor for you, it is quite simple work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 29, 2014 Share #4 Posted May 29, 2014 Annoying, like getting a new car with bird poo on it. By all means have it cleaned by the store, but you will need to learn to do it yourself in the future. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/308500-leica-m8-m8-2-m9-m9p.html#post2554282 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justj Posted May 29, 2014 Share #5 Posted May 29, 2014 I will take it back and exchange for another one. It proves that QC is very poor for this unit, if oil spots on a sensor can pass QC, imagine what else has not been spotted. I learnt my lesson the hard way for not exchange a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted May 29, 2014 Share #6 Posted May 29, 2014 Annoying, like getting a new car with bird poo on it. more like getting a new car with bird poo in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted May 29, 2014 Share #7 Posted May 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well that's Leica quality control again. It's inexcusable on a brand new camera. I'd insist on a new camera and of course learning how to clean it is a bonus, but it should be totally mint out of the box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted May 29, 2014 Share #8 Posted May 29, 2014 Instructions not clear, now have bird poop on my Leica. sent from a phone with auto-correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 29, 2014 Share #9 Posted May 29, 2014 My brand new M came with spots on the sensor. Would you return/exchange the camera or you would have Leica to clean the sensor? Nick, it is not quite a bit of dust that fell on the sensor , when you put lens ? Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica1215 Posted May 29, 2014 Share #10 Posted May 29, 2014 I will take it back and exchange for another one. It proves that QC is very poor for this unit, if oil spots on a sensor can pass QC, imagine what else has not been spotted. I learnt my lesson the hard way for not exchange a new one. I have learn my lesson as well, if a spot dust on sensor you think QC is not good enough, then you might likely to experience more severe problems down the Leica road. welcome to the club, I have had dead pixel, malfunctioned shutter and now it is my 3rd brand new M. perform well so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted May 29, 2014 Share #11 Posted May 29, 2014 Spots on the sensor are not a reason to return a camera. You will get them anyway after your first shoot. The shutter will spit oil drops on the sensor for the first few thousand images, so good luck in keeping your sensor oil free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 29, 2014 Share #12 Posted May 29, 2014 I will take it back and exchange for another one. It proves that QC is very poor for this unit, if oil spots on a sensor can pass QC, imagine what else has not been spotted. An absurd over reaction with no empathy of where or why dust and oil can land on the sensor. Your camera is bedding in, the components will throw off dust as they mesh together and become a smoothly working machine. If QC had tested the camera until there was no possibility of dust you would be complaining of the number of shutter actuations on a brand new camera And if you think Nikon or Canon don't throw off dust when new you would be mistaken, so stop trying to lay this at Leica QC's door, it is just common sense that it happens. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 29, 2014 Share #13 Posted May 29, 2014 Once you get a new camera as a replacement, I strongly suggest that you immediately and very carefully take it home, do not change a lens, do not press the shutter, and keep it on a shelf. That should alleviate your dust issue (although the trip home might jar some loose). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted May 30, 2014 Share #14 Posted May 30, 2014 I have learn my lesson as well, if a spot dust on sensor you think QC is not good enough, then you might likely to experience more severe problems down the Leica road. welcome to the club, I have had dead pixel, malfunctioned shutter and now it is my 3rd brand new M. perform well so far We'll done for posting this . There are people on here that just can't hear anything bad said about Leica as if it's just acceptable that you've had to change your £5000 camera 3 times. Perhaps Leica would like to officially comment about the necessity of a bedding in period where they expect oil to be sprayed on the sensor ? I don't suppose it's mentioned when you hand over the money ? All the times I've read reviews I've never heard it suggested that this is to be expected nor have the reviewers suggested that it has happened when they've beta tested them. So if that's correct I think it should be made clear when purchasing that you needn't worry if oil spits on your sensor, ( changing lenses and potentially dust getting in is somewhat different) as it's just the normal bedding in process, so don't complain and send it back just accept it . Roll up Roll up, Leica are selling £10 notes for £20 . Some people would form a queue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted May 30, 2014 Share #15 Posted May 30, 2014 Oil on the sensor is a very common issue with new cameras of all brands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 1, 2014 Share #16 Posted June 1, 2014 We'll done for posting this . There are people on here that just can't hear anything bad said about Leica as if it's just acceptable that you've had to change your £5000 camera 3 times. Perhaps Leica would like to officially comment about the necessity of a bedding in period where they expect oil to be sprayed on the sensor ? I don't suppose it's mentioned when you hand over the money ? All the times I've read reviews I've never heard it suggested that this is to be expected nor have the reviewers suggested that it has happened when they've beta tested them. So if that's correct I think it should be made clear when purchasing that you needn't worry if oil spits on your sensor, ( changing lenses and potentially dust getting in is somewhat different) as it's just the normal bedding in process, so don't complain and send it back just accept it . Roll up Roll up, Leica are selling £10 notes for £20 . Some people would form a queueUmmm… The shutter is by Copal and they supply the shutters of all major brands…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted June 1, 2014 Share #17 Posted June 1, 2014 Ummm… The shutter is by Copal and they supply the shutters of all major brands…. We'll i can't obviously state that I've read every camera forum available, but plenty that relate to the common brands that include Canon Nikon Fuji etc. I can't say that I've seen any post relating to oil leaks onto the sensor. If it's expected then I stand corrected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted June 1, 2014 Share #18 Posted June 1, 2014 I've had oil spots on a Canon. I must have had terrible bad luck... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 1, 2014 Share #19 Posted June 1, 2014 We'll i can't obviously state that I've read every camera forum available, but plenty that relate to the common brands that include Canon Nikon Fuji etc. I can't say that I've seen any post relating to oil leaks onto the sensor. If it's expected then I stand corrected Let me google that for you Let me google that for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted June 1, 2014 Share #20 Posted June 1, 2014 Let me google that for you Let me google that for you Thanks , I'm big and ugly enough to stand corrected. I must say I've been extremely lucky then as I've had no issues at all with the four or five Canon bodies I've had. Great link by the way. Not seen that before. Based on the fact that this company must be making hundreds of thousands of these shutters, if not millions, then it's surprising they've not actually manged to eliminate the problem completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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