dent Posted August 18, 2014 Share #21 Posted August 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I still find the files of the MM unique. In terms of bw tonality I am not able to get these rich results with any other camera I have used. Shadow recovery and mid tone richness are nothing short of stunning. This is especially true in poor or harsh lightning conditions and in prints. Print the files and comfortably let Your jaw drop :-) Perhaps it is my lack of very advanced Photoshop techniques but I just can´t emulate with other sensors files what the MM files deliver. Cheers Jochen Some recent harmless holiday snaps with the MM: Recent Additions - MindfulPhotography Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Hi dent, Take a look here M vs MM. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Leicakillen Posted August 18, 2014 Share #22 Posted August 18, 2014 Try putting them on a tripod, 'handheld' is like comparing the handling of two different cars each running on a flat tyre. Steve Dear Steve - do you really mean that the differences are so small? An image on a tripod or not at 1/500 s must be very small indeed....I would really like to understand, thanks. Inthe meantime I am enjoying my BW M9 images!! /Anders Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted August 18, 2014 Share #23 Posted August 18, 2014 Try putting them on a tripod, 'handheld' is like comparing the handling of two different cars each running on a flat tyre. Steve Don't agree on this. You shouldn't be running a car with a flat tyre, should you? So is it also wrong to shoot a camera handheld? Personally I think the best way tot test cameras for yourself is to use them like you would in real life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2014 Share #24 Posted August 18, 2014 Quite a few cars have no spare and a wise owner uses tyres with run-flat technology. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2014 Share #25 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Enrico - you have some very good BW images on your web-site!!The other day I was comparing an MM and my M9 (converted to BW), handheld. I could not detect any relevant difference - comparing the images as A3+ prints from my Epson Pro 3880. The light situation on the two images is somewhat different (the blurred leaves on the tree in the foreground). Are the differences MM - M)/M(240) only visible at higher ISOs? /Anders No - they are not. But they do depend on postprocessing technique and there is quite a difference between the way the two files need to be handled. Your example shows two images processed to look as much alike as possible, which means you have not used the full potential of the Monochrom. To be honest, neither of them looks like it was taken with a Monochrom. Edited August 18, 2014 by jaapv typo 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #26 Posted August 18, 2014 Monochrom, no contest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 18, 2014 Share #27 Posted August 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) So is it also wrong to shoot a camera handheld? Of course you can use a camera hand held, that isn't what I said is it. The point if you are testing, is to remove variables as far as possible, and the biggest variable is the steadiness of the camera. Then whatever you find 'in real life' is down to the photographer, like understanding post processing, and Jaap has pointed out the futility of making two images appear the same when they should look different. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 18, 2014 Share #28 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Dear Steve - do you really mean that the differences are so small? The difference may be very small, but if you are looking at detail in images shot from a distance any small movement of the camera will be magnified exponentially, this is one reason why test charts are photographed in a controlled environment within a closer focus range, not a 100 metres way. So I think it only fair to try and remove this variable if you want to go some way towards a definitive statement. Steve Edited August 18, 2014 by 250swb 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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